Swift-boating McCain

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Name the most compelling argument to elect Obama. Just one. Name it. First one that comes to your mind.

He's an Ivy Leaguer. Hey, I'm just being honest.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

He's an Ivy Leaguer. Hey, I'm just being honest.

So was George Bush.

And by that matter, Mitt Romney. So you endorse Romney as the presumptive nominee for VP? Glad to hear you're on board.

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Name the most compelling argument to elect Obama. Just one. Name it. First one that comes to your mind.

He isn't associated with George Bush. Politically, that's probably the most potent.

It needs to be a new era, with his charisma he could use the bully-pulpit of appealing to the masses to help push things through, ala Reagan. I really don't think Obama would steer the nation to the left too dramatically, the liberal wing of the Democratic party would probably keep protesting him.

People are ready for healthcare reform, only the rich getting richer while everyone else sweats it out is getting old. Somebody needs to help bring the ethnic groups together, only Obama could help push the dysfunctional aspects of African American society into the past.

Personally, I would be heartened by having a smart, successful black man in the oval office. I know way too many kids who have negative role models, who think the system is stacked against them. He blows all of that away.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

He isn't associated with George Bush. Politically, that's probably the most potent.

It needs to be a new era, with his charisma he could use the bully-pulpit of appealing to the masses to help push things through, ala Reagan. I really don't think Obama would steer the nation to the left too dramatically, the liberal wing of the Democratic party would probably keep protesting him.

People are ready for healthcare reform, only the rich getting richer while everyone else sweats it out is getting old. Somebody needs to help bring the ethnicities of the nation together, only Obama could help push the dysfunctional aspects of African American society into the past.

Personally, I would be heartened by having a smart, successful black man in the oval office. I know way too many kids who have negative role models, who think the system is stacked against them. He blows all of that away.

Don't go into politics, you're too long-winded.

He's popular because he isn't Bush and people are mad at Bush. If Bush had done a good job, there's nothing on his brief resume to endear him to the masses.

More health care really isn't a pulsating issue for people.

We have an identity crisis and he isn't the answer. We need to start a sense of identify which mandates each of us to do our best. He has not linked into that need, and he doesn't understand it. McCain isn't the answer and at most will be a placeholder.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

He isn't associated with George Bush. Politically, that's probably the most potent.

It needs to be a new era, with his charisma he could use the bully-pulpit of appealing to the masses to help push things through, ala Reagan. I really don't think Obama would steer the nation to the left too dramatically, the liberal wing of the Democratic party would probably keep protesting him.

People are ready for healthcare reform, only the rich getting richer while everyone else sweats it out is getting old. Somebody needs to help bring the ethnic groups together, only Obama could help push the dysfunctional aspects of African American society into the past.

Personally, I would be heartened by having a smart, successful black man in the oval office. I know way too many kids who have negative role models, who think the system is stacked against them. He blows all of that away.

exactly correct. there isn't one.

Now the same for McCain. It's easy. Command in Chief.

Vagueness in Obama's appeal. Specificity in McCain's. Advantage McCain.

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Vagueness in Obama's appeal. Specificity in McCain's. Advantage McCain.

We need to focus on home.

Enough wrong-headed war, enough of being the world's policeman. Georgia has proven we don't have the military muscle to do it all, especially when the rest of the world yawns when we assert moral authority.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

He's an Ivy Leaguer. Hey, I'm just being honest.

YOu're proabbyl a swimmer, too.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

We need to focus on home.

Enough wrong-headed war, enough of being the world's policeman. Georgia has proven we don't have the military muscle to do it all, especially when the rest of the world yawns when we assert moral authority.

This is the "in a time of much uncertainty and threats, I propose we hunker down the best we can and ignore them."

You still can't see why dems lose, can you?

[Ma'ake]

LOL - good sparring session, Mike. (Sincerely)

I better get back to the grindstone before I'm slayed by deadlines.

Take care... and GO UTES!

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Archaea

So was George Bush.

And by that matter, Mitt Romney. So you endorse Romney as the presumptive nominee for VP? Glad to hear you're on board.

Romney is far from the presumptive VP. I give that TIME blurb almost almost no credence.

However, I do think Romney would be a great choice. I like that he's an Ivy guy, his support for gay marriage, that he seems sensible on social issues in general including family planning (how else could he have been elected governor of Mass.?), and of course his putatitive foreign policy and judicial appointees (really the only two factors that make practical difference in who we choose as president).

I think it would be wonderful for Mormons. Another shove toward the mainstream, reason, and assimilation. This isn't like Turkey electing a Muslim fundamentalist to head of state. On the contrary.

On the other hand if he ever became president I'm sure 80% of Cougarboard would hate him by two years into the term a la Harry Reid.

My biggest concern is that it may not be a smart choice for McCain tactically. I think it could really rip the party, and even maybe give rise to a third candidate that would split the Republicans.