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Bronco's low was to finish 6-6, while Patterson finished 5-6. This is "nowhere near"? Since 2000, BYU has finished in the top 25 twice. TCU has finished in the top 25 five times in the same period (only missing out twice). Don't forget, in many respects it was the terrible defense under Bronco Mendenhall that led to Crowton getting fired. |
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Further, BYU's honor code poses a significant challenge and cannot be underestimated how it impacts recruiting regardless if the coach proclaims it an advantage. It also has the negative impact of creating more reasons for attrition of a recruiting class than just the regular ones every division one a program faces. So as my post clearly proves, it mattereth not if OU gets its pick of the litter. Those were not the FYM I was referencing. TCU has local access to hundreds of athletes that Utah doesn't provide. Further the LDS base nationwide doesn't provide. I think both schools face challenges to recruiting but I don't accept that BYU's are any easier to overcome than TCU's.
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We are comparing Head Coaches here. What Bronco did as a DC means jack shit in this equation. I think your point about ranking demonstrates that Patterson inherited a stout program. It will also demonstrate my point, in time, when the regularity of TCU appearances in the top 25 begins to dissipate now that they are playing in a tougher conference.
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Look at TCU over the past 20 years and I bet you see a much different pattern. You see a sharp uptick since Franchione. The BYU coach can sell BYU. The TCU coach has to sell himself and the program. Now whether TCU out-recruits BYU or vice versa, it's hard for me to since I don't have the data. But Jay says it is about equal, and I can believe that. |
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Yes. There is always a low. The issue is that after one season the low and high are the same. Much easier to distinguish between the two after two seasons.
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10-02-2007, 03:08 PM | #59 | |
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My comment about them being equal is based on the recruiting base or how difficult it is to recruit. BYU has access to a large portion of a 4M U.S. LDS membership, especially Poly athletes, and white LDS OL and QB's. TCU has UT leftovers in the Dallas area, which is one of the prime recruiting markets in the nation with the abundance of skill players and the maturity of high school programs. I call it a wash. |
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10-02-2007, 03:10 PM | #60 |
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I will grant you that Bronco's stock has risen considerably since the 2006 TCU game. While Patterson had high hopes for this year, and has disappointed.
Bronco has a great QB going into the future which bodes well. While Patterson has to tell recruits in DFW "sorry you can't watch games on TV" while Bronco does not have to say the same to recruits in Utah. But you know if Hall gets hurt, the wheels come off real quick. It could get VERY ugly. I haven't followed TCU enough to really know what's going on, though I have heard their offense stinks. |
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