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Old 11-19-2008, 05:57 PM   #51
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You see sexism where it isn't. Yes I don't like Hillary, but no it has nothing to do with her gender and everything to do with her politics.
You fool yourself.
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:59 PM   #52
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You fool yourself.
I disliked both Clintons, I was egalitarian in that regard. Both are repugnant to my sensibilities. Her unattractive feminine features only make mocking her easier. But Ted Kennedy's unattractive bovine features make mocking him quite easy as well. But then I suppose you believe a woman in politics should ride the coattails of her husband to political success, or maybe not.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:52 PM   #53
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I disliked both Clintons, I was egalitarian in that regard. Both are repugnant to my sensibilities. Her unattractive feminine features only make mocking her easier.
I just note that while you claim to dislike both Clintons with egalitarian disdain, I've never seen you refer to Bill as shrill, frigid, or bitchy. I've also never seen you mention his age. I don't doubt that you have political disagreements with Ms. Clinton, but I don't think that's the thrust (given that you see these matters as purely political, I'm certain you don't mind my using the term in association with your relationship with Hillary) of your objection to her. Your record on the matter speaks for itself.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:23 PM   #54
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I just note that while you claim to dislike both Clintons with egalitarian disdain, I've never seen you refer to Bill as shrill, frigid, or bitchy. I've also never seen you mention his age.
I have observed this myself. Of course, a lot of men react this way. Sexism is alive and well in a lot of ways.
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Sexism is alive and well in a lot of ways.
Indeed it is. After all, I doubt many would refer to Mitt as a GILF, though they might use the term for others with similar politics.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:48 PM   #56
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Indeed it is. After all, I doubt many would refer to Mitt as a GILF, though they might use the term for others with similar politics.
Mike just asked last night if he was a FILF.

I'm just saying, Archaea. Reasonable people will take what you say about Hillary more seriously if you leave out the "frigid bitch" part of it.
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I'm all for Hillary as Secretary of State. Under the circumstances I'm comforted by Obama looking to Bill Clinton's former people for staff. I think he's not as extreme liberal as I'd feared.

I think most reactions here to Hillary are sexist. Archaea's is more subtle than most.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:18 PM   #58
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Archaea, "frigid" is ipso facto a sexist term; it's also archaic. Don't use it.

I think women's sensuality is more situational. One man's frigid woman can concurrently be another man's warm delight. Women's disposition to sensuality is more aesthetically pleasing by any measure.
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Mike just asked last night if he was a FILF.
I don't think he's old enough yet, strictly speaking.
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I just note that while you claim to dislike both Clintons with egalitarian disdain, I've never seen you refer to Bill as shrill, frigid, or bitchy. I've also never seen you mention his age. I don't doubt that you have political disagreements with Ms. Clinton, but I don't think that's the thrust (given that you see these matters as purely political, I'm certain you don't mind my using the term in association with your relationship with Hillary) of your objection to her. Your record on the matter speaks for itself.
Given the fact that Bill was a philandering JFK kind of guy, I never got the impression he was frigid, but I could be wrong.

I have a record? I thought I was shooting from the hip without regard to truth or error. Thanks for letting me know.
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