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You live in a bubble. In a way, I am grateful, you're not subject to the abuses, but trusting government not to abuse you is extremely naive.
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The path to totalitarianism is much easier and quicker than the path to freedom and liberty.
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Your defense mechanixms are amazingly simple and naive.
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Rely on anecdotes to give quality to your points--to put a human face on what you're trying to say. Don't substitute them for empirical evidence.
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Tex would rely on empirical evidence provided by Stalin.
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Why are you not concerned with even one case of civil liberty abuse? Do you not recognize the iceberg principle? Why are you fully invested in accepting the representations of law enforcement? And finally, how do you, as authoritarian suggest to keep adequate checks and balances on police power of the state? Please answer those five questions directly, not dodgingly as is your M.O. My purpose in this, is I've never read any information who so readily accepted the polic position on issues. Now, if you had lived, worked or identified with any Russian or many other foreign nationals, you might appreciate that police power is subject to abuse. It is an inherent quality and risk of police power.
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who said anything about extapolating it to the entire country? I know it's not a common incident, thank God. The point is that it did happen because our attitude has changed because of the war on terror. It's ok to deny American civilians their rights now in situations like the one that happened in Iraq. It's not like they just locked him up and forgot about him. They actually made the point to him that he had no Constitutional rights. According to his captors those rights didn't apply to him because that was how they interpreted the law now. It's just shocking to me that so-called conservatives don't have a problem with that. I really think the fact that it's republicans in charge right now instead of democrats is why they're not saying more about it.
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