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04-21-2009, 04:15 PM | #51 |
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I remember reading in Readers Digest an article about the torture that Cuba did on its political dissidents. This was years ago when I was a kid.
Small spaces, not letting them sleep, bright lights, isolation. It was evidence of how terrible Cuba was. And now these same "Readers Digest Conservatives" see no irony in the USA using these techniques, and worse, in Cuba. I'm glad the light of Christ still abides in you Tex. Because that is a gift to everyone, no matter how wretched the soul. |
04-21-2009, 04:17 PM | #52 | |
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When a guy in a cave in Pakistan can destroy the ethics of this county he has won, whether he launches another attack or not. And that is what you fools can't see. |
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04-21-2009, 04:18 PM | #53 | |
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I don't recall ever firmly sitting in either camp on waterboarding, and since no one can come up with a definition of torture better than "I know it when I see it," I'm entitled to think that. At best, I think it's a very gray area, which is why I would probably support it being practice under very limited conditions. And by all publicly-available reports, that's how the gov't practiced it.
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And yes, that does seem excessive. But just to be clear, "limited conditions" doesn't just mean # of times ... it also means # of people. As best we know, very, very few people have been waterboarded. Right. You have deferred to Chris Hitchens.
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04-21-2009, 04:35 PM | #57 |
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I have been condemning the practice of torture for many years. While Obama was still negotiating book deals with the oligarchs.
I have previously said that we should commit no acts that we would not be willing to have committed on our own sons and daughters should they be captured. The decency we would expect and ask for in the treatment of our own is the decency we should require of ourselves. |
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What I think is truly awful is how Obama continues to prostrate himself before dictators and oppressive nations. Never underestimate a liberal's desire to surrender America's moral greatness to any two-bit country that asks for it.
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