Are we seeing Charlie Weiss phenomenon at BYU?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by OrangeUte

I think that UCLA played with quite a bit of emotion up until the fumble caused by Robert Johnson deflated them late in the 3rd quarter.

The Utes are much better than many are giving them credit for in getting this win.

Well, you can give them credit for the UCLA win, but what is the real Ute team: the UCLA one or the Oregon State/AFA one?

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by OrangeUte

I think that UCLA played with quite a bit of emotion up until the fumble caused by Robert Johnson deflated them late in the 3rd quarter.

The Utes are much better than many are giving them credit for in getting this win.

I think the Utes are far more capable than they appeared in the OSU and AFA games. I can agree that they demonstrated capability that indicates they are still a top tier team in the MWC and if they play like they did against UCLA every week they could win a heck of a lot of their remaining games.

However, UCLA's history under Carl Dorrell is a fact that cannot be just swept aside. His teams have a proven history of some enormous choke jobs on the road. Time will tell if Utah is that good or if UCLA just failed to show up.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Well, you can give them credit for the UCLA win, but what is the real Ute team: the UCLA one or the Oregon State/AFA one?

The real team is closer to the one that beat UCLA. I think you know that, but are hesitant to admit it because of your hatred for all things University of Utah.

[OrangeUte]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Well, you can give them credit for the UCLA win, but what is the real Ute team: the UCLA one or the Oregon State/AFA one?

The real Ute team is the team you saw on Saturday. The downside to the Utes nearly every year is that they develop mental weakness, usually midway through the season. I think that mentally the Utes were weakened by the OSU and AFA losses, and now they have regrouped, and have gained significant confidence. Utah could win every remaining game if they can avoid more mental setbacks resulting in a loss of confidence.

You have got to admit that the Utes athleticism on Saturday was not that surprising.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

The real team is closer to the one that beat UCLA. I think you know that, but are hesitant to admit it because of your hatred for all things University of Utah.

I have twice the amount of 2007 data that says they suck than I have data that says they don't.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I have twice the amount of 2007 data that says they suck than I have data that says they don't.

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

it might be useful to give additional weighting to recent results and less weighting to games earlier in the season.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I have twice the amount of 2007 data that says they suck than I have data that says they don't.

So? Data can be manipulated to say whatever one wants it to say.

The Utes wouldn't have lost to OSU had Johnson and Asiata not been hurt. The offense stalled after Johnson went down.

Against AFA, Grady sucked because he's not a spread offense QB. Against UCLA, the Utes tailored an offensive scheme for Grady's ability and he had a much better game.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

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I didn't say the weighting should be TeamRating = Game3 * 3 + Game 2 + Game1

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I don't blame the defense per se. I blame the defensive coach. It was mental breakdowns, not athleticism that did us in.

I disagree. Tulsa's receivers were too fast for our DBs. It was probably far more obvious in person than it could have been on TV.

[SeattleUte]

I'm dismayed at the fervor of Indy's hatred for the U of U. It's ugly.