Black and Mormon

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by Tex

Maybe it's just that I don't live in Utah, but another lesson in PR I've learned is, if your opponent's voice is a whole lot smaller than yours, be careful when and how you choose to speak.

While true, I believe our opponent in this isn't just the antis but all of those who have taken up their belief that Mormons are racist. I was in Philly this time last year and the predominant belief was that "Mormons are racist."

[pelagius]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

So this is just a raw score, not adjusted for age, race, education, or income?

How useful is that, in your opinion?

I imagine that LDS will skew younger than the average of the other group. I also imagine that education will be similar but slightly higher than the other group. I bet income is a wash. I imagine the percentage is inversely correlated with each of these covariates. This would mean that the survey probably under estimates "segregation propensity" relative to other groups. I doubt it would have a huge effect but I could be wrong.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by K-dog

While true, I believe our opponent in this isn't just the antis but all of those who have taken up their belief that Mormons are racist. I was in Philly this time last year and the predominant belief was that "Mormons are racist."

Come on, now K-dog, let's be fair here. The "predominant" belief? How'd you get that sample?

I've lived all over the country and worked with a lot of different kinds of folks, and I've never been told I was a racist, or that Mormons were racist (except on CG, ironically). Not saying they don't exist, but let's be realistic about these vast generalizations.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by K-dog

While true, I believe our opponent in this isn't just the antis but all of those who have taken up their belief that Mormons are racist. I was in Philly this time last year and the predominant belief was that "Mormons are racist."

I noticed that Mitt Romney called out Mike Huckabee for defending the use of the confederate flag. Oh wait, Mitt didn't. Never mind. He was too busy saying we should kick out all the illegal Mexicans.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by pelagius

Example:

LDS
72-80: 30% either agreed strongly or slightly agreed that whites have a right to segregated neighborhoods
81-88: 20%
89-96: 10%

Other:
72-80: 37%
81-88: 23%
89-96: 17%

10, 20 and 30 percent. did they interview 10 people?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

Come on, now K-dog, let's be fair here. The "predominant" belief? How'd you get that sample?

I've lived all over the country and worked with a lot of different kinds of folks, and I've never been told I was a racist, or that Mormons were racist (except on CG, ironically). Not saying they don't exist, but let's be realistic about these vast generalizations.

Wow, Tex, they didn't tell you these things to your face? Weird.

I'm betting this whole Romney thing has been a real eye-opener to a lot of Mormons. "Everyone I meet says they like Mormons, how come 35% wouldn't vote for one, and the approval rate of Mormonism is just a shade better than Islam?" LOL. This is the case of Mormons wanting to be loved.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Wow, Tex, they didn't tell you these things to your face? Weird.

Your sarcasm unwittingly illustrates my point. Why we shouln't feel obligated to explain ourselves to folks who are themselves afraid to come out with (allegedly) such opinions is exactly what I'm getting at.

Small voices. Don't magnify them.

[pelagius]

Originally Posted by Solon

One explanation could be that much of the US's LDS population is centered in the west - an area historically less racist than the rest of the country (for a variety of reasons).

I think that is likely to be an important explanatory variable. It could be that relative to other rocky mountain populations that Mormons don't stack up very well. On the other hand, Mormons have very few minorities which probably tend to make up a non-trivial part of the OTHER group and I would think minorities in general would have very low seggregation propensities. Thus not all potential control variable cut the wrong direction.

[pelagius]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

10, 20 and 30 percent. did they interview 10 people?

Yes

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by pelagius

I think that is likely to be an important explanatory variable. It could be that relative to other rocky mountain populations that Mormons don't stack up very well. On the other hand, Mormons have very few minorities which probably tend to make up a non-trivial part of the OTHER group and I would think minorities in general would have very low seggregation propensities. Thus not all potential control variable cut the wrong direction.

I guess there is reason to believe that the group least likely to vote for a black politician is the Hispanics.

Racism cuts in all directions.

I've never heard of "black flight" however. I wonder if it exists. LOL.

I do know that there is tremendous resentment when white people gentrify poor black neighborhoods.