McCain has doubled up Romney in early CA returns

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

So minn_stat, fundamentally, you don't think "the people are always correct."

In other words, people could choose a 20 year path to socialism, against their own interests? You think Obama's charisma is a greater power than the GOP message (whatever that is).

Nope. I don't think they are always correct. People make dumb decisions all the time, even collectively.

We've become a very shortsighted, very materialistic society. American people, collectively, have become pretty bad at saving money, and I believe it is very much against their own interests to have done so. The pain will come, and I believe we will learn from it, but only after the pain.

But I believe they are free to choose and then to learn from both their good and bad choices. (And no, I don't claim to be all-knowing in regards to identifying the bad and good choices, but I can make my best judgment in this regard.)

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I understand now. You'd rather have a bad Democratic presidency and have it over in four years, with no faits accomplis, than risk somebody that the people might actually like and support and re-elect.

There's some logic to that. I do hope the GOP gets its act together. It's becoming clear that even Republicans aren't happy with the current incarnation of the party.

Bingo! That certainly plays a role in my decision-making, yes. Need to consider both long and short term effects.

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

the idea that God was in control during the Holcaust, WWI, WWII and Rwanda, etc. is hard to fathom.

I think the more likely explanation is that Man was in control.

Man is in control in one sense, but God's great purposes will not be thwarted, even by the evil we perpetrate on one another.

I'm a big believer in the words of Neal Maxwell in a conference talk from quite some time ago. I don't have the exact quote before me, and I don't have time to look for it now, but he basically said that the scripture that says "every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ" will not be coerced, but will bend willingly. When we understand the entire picture, we will be overwhelmed with the wisdom and goodness of God, and will willing worship Him. The entire picture. I can't understand these atrocities now, I about break down when I read a news story about the lady who killed her baby by putting it in the microwave, but I have faith that God is real, and that He has not abandoned us.