03-04-2008, 07:02 PM | #61 | |
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What Hinckley did was far more than "being polite." He reportedly cried upon hearing the news that the Illinois legislature had passed the resolution. He was so touched by it that he brought it up later in General Conference when discussing reasons why the church is doing so well. He sent both of his counselors to meet with the delegation from Illinois and express the thanks of the First Presidency. It was a big moment for him and the church, notwithstanding your obstinancy. You don't get it. Fine. But others do, and it is important for them. |
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The point remains with them, just like with Mormons/Missouri, that it is nothing more than a meaningless symbolic gesture. Mormons are/were not being oppressed in Missouri. Blacks are not enslaved. No amount of gushing from some state or federal legislature changes that. Moreover, race relations in America are still very tense (the point where the Mormon/Missouri comparison loses steam). Blacks, who rightly demanded equal protection the beginning, have continued to try and take more and more ground, until I think they go too far. Hence, we have the Affirmative Action backlash. I see an apology as just another way for Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the like to begin a fresh shake down of American White Guilt. And it's a guilt that no clear-thinking non-racist white person should have to feel. And it reminds blacks of a time when whites did in truth oppress them, an oppression some of them still think they feel today. Thus I think regardless of what "soothing" such an apology might offer to some, it may not be worth the political capital spent to acheive it.
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Hmm. A meaningless symbolic gesture? How can you have a meaningless symbol?
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Here is one of the sad ironies of life: mullahs never feel any guilt about anything.
But non-mullah thoughtful people often do feel a lot of guilt about a lot of little things. This thread is a perfect representation of that. |
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If you are opposed to an apology based on what other measures it might prompt, may I suggest being in favor of the apology and opposed to such other measures. I haven't heard of a serious movement for reparations for LDS people following Illinois' expression of regret. The US Congress has passed resolutions of regret numerous times in this nation's history. I doubt any of those expressions of regret dealt with a topic that deserved such an expression more than slavery. |
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I'm trying in vain to recall seeing you feel guilty about anything.
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