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SeattleUte · 07-15-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I have noticed that the older female partners at my firm are almost, without exception, all stereotypical b*****s.....at least the ones I have met. Don't get me wrong...they are all extremely intelligent, capable, they bring in lots of revenue, they are strong leaders, etc.....but they are not well-liked, often difficult to work with, and sometimes nasty.

The younger female partners not so much...I mean the women that are in their late 30s, early 40s.

I chalk it up to a product of their times. The older female partners had to shatter the glass ceiling in the post-Womens Lib era. I would imagine that in order to prove themselves in the boys club, they had to show these hard characteristics to gain the respect of their male peers. After behaving in such a manner for so long, it just becomes how you operate professionally.

The newer female partners are benefitting from the path that was blazed before them by the b*****s, so there is less of a need to be hyper-aggressive to prove your mettle. I am not suggesting that barriers are eliminated, but I do think it is likely much better now for women in the workplace than it was in the 70s and 80s.

I'm responding solely to say that I pretty much reject all of this except the part aout older women having to overcome a lot.

Tex · 07-15-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by creekster

The restriction on audio visuals has been inplace for a long time. The one about not asking others to open sriptures was new to me.

I have been told the latter before, but I don't remember it coming via official FP correspondence.

Levin · 07-15-2008, 06:55 PM

I want a fiery prophet; a grumpy apostle. We insist that they're not perfect, but when we pick up the scent of their imperfections, we pounce.

I say, Give 'em hell Tommy!

HighHorse · 07-15-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I have it on good authority that President Monson was out of control at the Jazz playoff games....talking trash to the opposing players, yelling at Sloan on the bench, taunting the refs, calling for Boozer to be traded, etc.

He touched Jerry. You don't touch Jerry, I don't care who you are.

Jeff Lebowski · 07-15-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

If they post on here and make stupid comments like Requiem (assuming "she" was actually a woman)? No.

If they happen to be guilty of nothing more than being married to a public figure but do nothing to draw attention to themselves? Yes.

Aha. Does that mean you are going to apologize for your comment about Mary Todd Lincoln?

Surfah · 07-15-2008, 07:12 PM

You know what? I am okay with President Monson being as described. I like a guy that can be personable and intimate but also handle the business when he needs to. That's the way I hope to be perceived someday.

TripletDaddy · 07-15-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I'm responding solely to say that I pretty much reject all of this except the part aout older women having to overcome a lot.

What part are you rejecting? The reputations of some of the older female partners at my firm or the fact that the older generation help pave the way for younger female partners?

Jim Swarthout · 07-15-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

But the interesting insight to me was what the SIL said about Pres. Monson. I had mentioned that he seems so laid back, that maybe he shies away from the stuff like in the recent letters, relying on Elder Packer. He said that he'd had a conversation with the SIL that suggests something else. The SIL commented that Pres. Monson has a huge temper - he said he'd seen him, in the few minutes before conference started, just screaming, red-faced and all, at someone about something.

I know well-placed people who have had personal dealings with Monson who have expressed essentially the same thing about his personality.

Snowcat · 07-15-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HighHorse

He touched Jerry. You don't touch Jerry, I don't care who you are.

I remember waiting to catch a plane back to SLC several years ago. Jerry was waiting to catch the same plane. His body language did not invite others to come and make stupid small talk about the jazz.

MikeWaters · 07-15-2008, 07:36 PM

I don't know that I have ever screamed at anyone, red-faced. At least not in many years.

I guess I don't have a temper like that.

07-15-2008, 06:55 PM	#63
Levin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,484	I want a fiery prophet; a grumpy apostle. We insist that they're not perfect, but when we pick up the scent of their imperfections, we pounce. I say, Give 'em hell Tommy! __________________ "Now I say that I know the meaning of my life: 'To live for God, for my soul.' And this meaning, in spite of its clearness, is mysterious and marvelous. Such is the meaning of all existence." Levin, Anna Karenina, Part 8, Chapter 12

07-15-2008, 07:12 PM	#66
Surfah Master Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: F'burg, VA Posts: 3,211	You know what? I am okay with President Monson being as described. I like a guy that can be personable and intimate but also handle the business when he needs to. That's the way I hope to be perceived someday. __________________ Ernie Johnson: "Auburn is a pretty good school. To graduate from there I suppose you really need to work hard and put forth maximum effort." Charles Barkley: "20 pts and 10 rebounds will get you through also!"

07-15-2008, 07:36 PM	#70
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I don't know that I have ever screamed at anyone, red-faced. At least not in many years. I guess I don't have a temper like that.