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BYU71 · 11-20-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

you gotta be kidding me. You consider signing a petition an act of valor?

Where did he say it was an act of valor.

I think he indicated it took stones.

Archaea · 11-20-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Where did he say it was an act of valor.

I think he indicated it took stones.

Courage, not valor. The two are not identical.

It is courageous for any member to sign a public petition that challenges a concept authored by a Church leader. Consequences often follow.

BYU71 · 11-20-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Courage, not valor. The two are not identical.

It is courageous for any member to sign a public petition that challenges a concept authored by a Church leader. Consequences often follow.

It does take stones. If there is someone on this board that values being able to post on CB, go over there and go against the authorities.

Post something like I think the mods on this board go way overboard enforcing the rules. Some of the rules are ambigious horsecrap. That would take stones if you want to continue posting.

Indy Coug · 11-20-2007, 03:44 PM

It doesn't take stones unless someone is wielding iron maidens, racks, pyres and so forth as an award for dissent.

Given the thousands of faiths floating around out there, it must not really be that hard to dissent nowadays.

ChinoCoug · 11-20-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Courage, not valor. The two are not identical.

It is courageous for any member to sign a public petition that challenges a concept authored by a Church leader. Consequences often follow.

you swear The Church is gonna read every name on the petition.

Archaea · 11-20-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

you swear The Church is gonna read every name on the petition.

That membership committee preservation group thing might.

JohnnyLingo · 11-20-2007, 03:50 PM

It's funny that CGers think I have a persecution complex.

Doesn't get more wacko than thinking President Hinckley pores over every name on the petition and then ex's them all.

Sleeping in EQ · 11-20-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Which is why the church declined comment.

I'm not going to speculate on the Church's motives, but your own disparagement doesn't help the situation, IMO.

Archaea · 11-20-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

It's funny that CGers think I have a persecution complex.

Doesn't get more wacko than thinking President Hinckley pores over every name on the petition and then ex's them all.

Bureaucracies don't work that way. You have a member of a committee designate a nameless, faceless lifetime bureaucrat review things. That's even worse as you have somebody will no real inspiration or interest applying their fundamentalist views to people they don't know.

Indy Coug · 11-20-2007, 03:52 PM

There is no higher calling one can aspire to than being a martyr for the faith, ESPECIALLY if it's at the hands of your own faith.

It almost makes you wish that everyone wouldn't get exalted so you could really reap the benefits of taking one for the team.

11-20-2007, 03:44 PM	#64
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	It doesn't take stones unless someone is wielding iron maidens, racks, pyres and so forth as an award for dissent. Given the thousands of faiths floating around out there, it must not really be that hard to dissent nowadays.

11-20-2007, 03:50 PM	#67
JohnnyLingo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	It's funny that CGers think I have a persecution complex. Doesn't get more wacko than thinking President Hinckley pores over every name on the petition and then ex's them all.

11-20-2007, 03:52 PM	#70
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	There is no higher calling one can aspire to than being a martyr for the faith, ESPECIALLY if it's at the hands of your own faith. It almost makes you wish that everyone wouldn't get exalted so you could really reap the benefits of taking one for the team.