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Mark "Steam" Monestine was a celebrity at TOHS......esp amongst the white women. I think plenty of local girls lent him a hand when he needed it...
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People could have asked a similar same question about Ayn Rand's attitude toward totalitarianism.
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Nice lofty thinking of yourself. You play a great role, and thanks for the laughter on that one.
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I think metaphysical control including enforced ignorance, such as conditional love and apologetics, can be as profound as the Stasi, barbed wire, or book burnings. My experience is as valid as Ayn Rand's. Don't devalue my experience, you POS. I'm not alone. Hundreds of millions feel the same way I do about religion. In fact, I give little credit to American religious extremism for not burning books and the like, as our secular ethos makes such physical manifestations of extremism impossible. Yet the impulse toward it is no less real, among the hard core leaders. In Mormonism, excummunication of intellectuals is a metaphysical version of burning at the stake.
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You do a delightful ascot, dear friend. Identifying yourself with a self-appointed philosophical lightweight fighting against totalitarianism, thereby analogizing yourself in her relative status, in a even more lightweight arena, Mormonism and your battle against ephemeral enemies, windmills and unimportant people.
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This thread brings up a pet peeve left over from my days as ward czar. I don't get people who declare they don't want to be bothered by the church, and become incredibly agitated if a well-meaning missionary, HT or bishop didn't see the DNC memo and dares darken the apostate's doorstep. Actually, that part I sort of get, but where I become confused is when said apostate declines an invitation to have his name removed from the records of the Church. I wouldn't even mention "excommunication;" I'd present the offer as enticingly as possible (I even considered financial incentives), and still they'd decline. I was never sure if they were simply hedging their bets, or if deep down they enjoyed ripping on the occasional LDS visitor.
I would have loved to have purged the rolls of the SU wannabes, but they refused, and I never had the time or inclination to ex them through a disciplinary council. And thus the biannual visits by the unwitting to an outraged apostate continue. The Circle of Strife. |
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