Name the top 3 reasons Bush has been

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

No candidate now, or in the future, is going to run on a platform relinquishing power back to congress. They all run as 'change agents' (I can't think of a lamer term) which only assumes more power to the executive with each successive administration (no matter the party).

no major party candidate, you mean.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

I really don't, no.

But what's your take, Tex? Seriously. I get pissed talking to other R on the web, because they're almost never honest in their criticism of Bush. We're not on the Hannity show here. He screwed up. Which is no sin. But to not make a course correction for FOUR years, in the face of the screw-up, is a sin. If he were the CEO of a Fortune 500, he would have been canned.

My take on what? You've not been specific about anything. What "screw up" are you referring to ... the Iraq War? You don't consider the surge a "course correction"?

[exUte]

Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

I really don't, no.

But what's your take, Tex? Seriously. I get pissed talking to other R on the web, because they're almost never honest in their criticism of Bush. We're not on the Hannity show here. He screwed up. Which is no sin. But to not make a course correction for FOUR years, in the face of the screw-up, is a sin. If he were the CEO of a Fortune 500, he would have been canned.

AT THE TIME, that didn't think Iraq had WMD's? You can include the United Nations as well.

That's why 90% of congress gave Bush the authority to invade. It was a game-time decision. Monday-tuesday-wednesday-thursday-friday-saturday-sunday morning quarterbacking isn't the mark of any kind of leader.

[Clark Addison]

Originally Posted by Tex

Reading through this list shows me that for all the education and high-minded thinking on CG, when the topic turns to Bush, otherwise clear-thinking individuals suspend logic and descend into the chasm of Bush Derangement Syndrome.

I thought it was a pretty good list. At least no one was posting things like "Bush planned 9/11 then framed Bin Laden", or "Bush used Diebold to steal the election". Which criticisms do you feel fall into the paranoid Bush-hater category? I know that with many of these, such as Iraq War, people can obviously have differing opinions, but, for the most part, they seem to be reasonable critiques.

[Clark Addison]

Originally Posted by exUte

AT THE TIME, that didn't think Iraq had WMD's? You can include the United Nations as well.

That's why 90% of congress gave Bush the authority to invade. It was a game-time decision. Monday-tuesday-wednesday-thursday-friday-saturday-sunday morning quarterbacking isn't the mark of any kind of leader.

And yet very, very few of these countries thought it was a good idea to invade Iraq.

Congress is certainly culpable in this as well, but I blame Bush and his administration for being the instigators, and I don't mean that as a partisan attack. I am very confident that if Colin Powell had been president at the time, we would not have gone into Iraq. I don't think we would have if McCain had been president either.

[TripletDaddy]

In order of gravity:

1. Does not allow his daughter (Barbara, NOT Jenna) to pose for Playboy
2. Responsible for launching the career of Frank Caliendo
3. Iraq War
4. Refuses to encourage his wife to use teeth whitening strips to cover up her heater stains

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Clark Addison

First impressions would be:
2. Disdain for legal and traditional precedents, civil rights, and the like. (things like torture, signing statements on bills, malfeasance in the Justice Department, etc.)

I wonder what Clark would be saying today were he still with us

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...dget-bill.html.