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Archaea · 11-18-2005, 08:46 PM

and it should hurt but it's good to get a workout in.

I may rely upon a few friends for updates on the game though.

creekster · 11-21-2005, 01:23 AM

I heard there were almost 8000 riders; is this possible? How about a brief ridse report when you have a chance?

Archaea · 11-21-2005, 03:38 PM

My friend was platinum and didn't plan to arrive until almost at start.

I thought Tucson would be warm, boy was I in for a shock. Our hotel was eight miles away, so we rode in the dark, freezing every appendage off in the process. It was 43 degrees and no cold gear on.

So we arrive at the start line, where my friend gets escorted to the start line with Floyd Landis and others.

I try to jump in right behind, when officers politely inform, "No, these persons were here at 2:30 am." So I go past gold to the back of the silver. Yes I saw all 7700 riders.

When the start came, our group sat there for minutes. Once started, I could barely pedal it was so thick, up until the seven mile creek bed, where on dismounts to run through a creek bed. My friend meanwhile averaged with his group 23 mph up to that point. I dodged funny dressed persons and tandems left and right averaging 17 because of thick traffic.

Once out of the bed I finally found some guys who graciously let me pull the next hour for them. Finally a Cat 2 racer pulling his girlfriend showed up and I hopped on for a rest.

We got to the next creek bed at about 9:20 or so. I found my feedbag at the bottom of a hill. I had only drank less than one bottle, but graciously ate my turkey sandwich as I progressed.

Somewhere another group allowed me to pull for a long time until some racers doing the shorter segment came by. I pulled a few times then just sat on their tails having pulled more than half the day's ride.

Now prior to this ride I had only had one 100 miler exactly a month earlier, so I knew I was fated to blow up. And at mile 90, out of a turn they exploded and I died, literally. I went from 23 mph to 13. It took 90 minutes to go the last 18 miles. Old fat guys started passing me.

Lesson to cyclists: never get old and fat and try to ride a century hard on less than twenty miles of riding per week. It isn't pretty.

So yes I broke 5 hours, but in the wrong direction. One of my slowest centuries every.

After the sun rose, weather was nice. I cannot speak about rest stops as I did not use them. I used two and one half bottles, one turkey sandwich and six Gus. Hopefully I can learn from this, and stay in shape, but staying in shape with a real job is a chore.

During the ride, I met a gal who started riding because she had just completed 50 marathons. Another gal I passed had just completed Furnace Creek 508, SOLO, in 41 hours. She had completed over 24 double centuries. She was riding with her hubbie, and noted he was suffering, graciously reminding him to sit up and he didn't need to blow up.

Any way. Tucson is fun and I would recommend going in shape because the riders there take it seriously.

Floyd Landis didn't win, as I imagine he allowed the local rider to win. Robbie Ventura also didn't win.

Gratefully, there's not any real climbing to speak of.

bluegoose · 11-21-2005, 08:24 PM

Whats up with the creek crossings? I can't imagine that they couldn't find 100 miles of good road in/around Tucson that do not cross over a creekbed? How wide were they? Did you need waders to get across? Did people actually run over them? That would seem like a bit much to me to run across, considering it is a 4-6 hour ride and you would save, what about 1 minute by running. I'm guessing it is just one of those local gimmicky things they keep as part of the ride for the sake of tradition.

Sounds fun overall, aside from the beginning. A few years ago I did the Bolder Boulder 10K race. I believe there were about 45,000 runners that year. They did it in wave starts every 45 seconds, based on your reported time. I don't believe that I was able to actually run for close to 1/2 mile because of congestion. Not exactly a race in which you go for a good time.

Archaea · 11-21-2005, 08:29 PM

but these are big crossings, more than several hundred yards each.

It probably got started that way and never changed. One thing which perplexes me about "rides" as opposed to triathlons and sometimes races is the lack of support. In a cycling race, you provide your own support. In a ride, they have the support off to the side, but it takes so long, you lose too much time. In a triathlon, the support is road side and doesn't really require stopping, just slowing down. It wouldn't take much to just hand off water or other drinks, as they do in triathlons.

creekster · 11-22-2005, 12:44 AM

Thanks for posting. 7700 riders! Amazing. If I had gone, by the way, I would have been one of those slow tandem guys you complained about.

We might have to try to get down there next year as my wife loves AZ for some reason.

Archaea · 11-22-2005, 01:01 AM

it's also nice to have a support person along roadside to discard such items.

MikeWaters · 11-22-2005, 02:31 AM

The century I did this summer in Wichita Falls, TX, called the Hotter N Hell 100, had over 9000 riders.

Archaea · 11-22-2005, 02:50 AM

unless you start up front, it's a mad house with that many.

I think they could do a better job on centuries. The people running them should attend some well supported triathlons to see what I mean. Or marathons.

MikeWaters · 11-22-2005, 02:56 AM

HHH is well-supported. For the racers they have feeds and water stations, they don't stop.

When you stop at a rest station, someone runs up to you with a pitcher of gatorade. It's a great ride (that's why 9000 people come).

11-18-2005, 08:46 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Well off to do a little ride in Tucson and it should hurt but it's good to get a workout in. I may rely upon a few friends for updates on the game though. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-21-2005, 01:23 AM	#2
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	SO how was Tucson? I heard there were almost 8000 riders; is this possible? How about a brief ridse report when you have a chance?

11-21-2005, 03:38 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Largest organized ride, or so they said in North America My friend was platinum and didn't plan to arrive until almost at start. I thought Tucson would be warm, boy was I in for a shock. Our hotel was eight miles away, so we rode in the dark, freezing every appendage off in the process. It was 43 degrees and no cold gear on. So we arrive at the start line, where my friend gets escorted to the start line with Floyd Landis and others. I try to jump in right behind, when officers politely inform, "No, these persons were here at 2:30 am." So I go past gold to the back of the silver. Yes I saw all 7700 riders. When the start came, our group sat there for minutes. Once started, I could barely pedal it was so thick, up until the seven mile creek bed, where on dismounts to run through a creek bed. My friend meanwhile averaged with his group 23 mph up to that point. I dodged funny dressed persons and tandems left and right averaging 17 because of thick traffic. Once out of the bed I finally found some guys who graciously let me pull the next hour for them. Finally a Cat 2 racer pulling his girlfriend showed up and I hopped on for a rest. We got to the next creek bed at about 9:20 or so. I found my feedbag at the bottom of a hill. I had only drank less than one bottle, but graciously ate my turkey sandwich as I progressed. Somewhere another group allowed me to pull for a long time until some racers doing the shorter segment came by. I pulled a few times then just sat on their tails having pulled more than half the day's ride. Now prior to this ride I had only had one 100 miler exactly a month earlier, so I knew I was fated to blow up. And at mile 90, out of a turn they exploded and I died, literally. I went from 23 mph to 13. It took 90 minutes to go the last 18 miles. Old fat guys started passing me. Lesson to cyclists: never get old and fat and try to ride a century hard on less than twenty miles of riding per week. It isn't pretty. So yes I broke 5 hours, but in the wrong direction. One of my slowest centuries every. After the sun rose, weather was nice. I cannot speak about rest stops as I did not use them. I used two and one half bottles, one turkey sandwich and six Gus. Hopefully I can learn from this, and stay in shape, but staying in shape with a real job is a chore. During the ride, I met a gal who started riding because she had just completed 50 marathons. Another gal I passed had just completed Furnace Creek 508, SOLO, in 41 hours. She had completed over 24 double centuries. She was riding with her hubbie, and noted he was suffering, graciously reminding him to sit up and he didn't need to blow up. Any way. Tucson is fun and I would recommend going in shape because the riders there take it seriously. Floyd Landis didn't win, as I imagine he allowed the local rider to win. Robbie Ventura also didn't win. Gratefully, there's not any real climbing to speak of. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-21-2005, 08:29 PM	#5
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Why they have creek crossings is beyond me but these are big crossings, more than several hundred yards each. It probably got started that way and never changed. One thing which perplexes me about "rides" as opposed to triathlons and sometimes races is the lack of support. In a cycling race, you provide your own support. In a ride, they have the support off to the side, but it takes so long, you lose too much time. In a triathlon, the support is road side and doesn't really require stopping, just slowing down. It wouldn't take much to just hand off water or other drinks, as they do in triathlons. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-22-2005, 12:44 AM	#6
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	Great report Thanks for posting. 7700 riders! Amazing. If I had gone, by the way, I would have been one of those slow tandem guys you complained about. We might have to try to get down there next year as my wife loves AZ for some reason.

11-21-2005, 08:24 PM	#4
bluegoose Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,919	Whats up with the creek crossings? I can't imagine that they couldn't find 100 miles of good road in/around Tucson that do not cross over a creekbed? How wide were they? Did you need waders to get across? Did people actually run over them? That would seem like a bit much to me to run across, considering it is a 4-6 hour ride and you would save, what about 1 minute by running. I'm guessing it is just one of those local gimmicky things they keep as part of the ride for the sake of tradition. Sounds fun overall, aside from the beginning. A few years ago I did the Bolder Boulder 10K race. I believe there were about 45,000 runners that year. They did it in wave starts every 45 seconds, based on your reported time. I don't believe that I was able to actually run for close to 1/2 mile because of congestion. Not exactly a race in which you go for a good time.

11-22-2005, 01:01 AM	#7
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	it's cold so bring arm warmers and knee warmers it's also nice to have a support person along roadside to discard such items. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-22-2005, 02:31 AM	#8
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	The century I did this summer in Wichita Falls, TX, called the Hotter N Hell 100, had over 9000 riders.

11-22-2005, 02:50 AM	#9
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	wow unless you start up front, it's a mad house with that many. I think they could do a better job on centuries. The people running them should attend some well supported triathlons to see what I mean. Or marathons. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-22-2005, 02:56 AM	#10
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	HHH is well-supported. For the racers they have feeds and water stations, they don't stop. When you stop at a rest station, someone runs up to you with a pitcher of gatorade. It's a great ride (that's why 9000 people come).