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Goatnapper'96 · 11-01-2006, 10:36 PM

back in 2003. That was the most painful game I ever endured. I am sure they will happen again in the future as all things are cyclical with respect to sports, but I just believe that embarassment has a similar impact on Bronco as the 2001 AF blowout had on DeBerry. Don't get me wrong, Bronco is not a bitter type. Not that he has any more class than DeBerry, the dude appears to me to grasp a bigger picture and understands that petty jealousies are not conducive to a winning program. That said, his defense has been as well prepared for CSU the past two years as any game they played each season.

I think BYU will come out to play this saturday. In time the sting of that embarassment will be erased from Bronco's memory, but I still think that he remembers that horrendous Thursday evening. I sure do.

I also think that even while I believe the BYU defensive backfield is not as good as the front 7, they controlled Tulsa's passing offense decently. I think Tulsa has a better passing offense than CSU and I know they have a better run game. With the injuries to the CSU OL, BYU will rush 4 at the most, probably still pressure Hanie and sit back 7 into a zone coverage. The Rams have great athleticism at receiver, I think they have the most athletic receiving corps in the conference, but 7 guys can cover a great deal of space. Hanie will make enough mistakes to stall drives.

When BYU has the ball I struggle to see BYU not scoring on 60-70% of its drives. CSU has a decent MWC defense, perhaps even a good one. But BYU has a really good offense and it is clicking like two hot oiled exotic dancers. The leopard skin thong will be riding tight Brethren, Cougs by 21 or more!

RockyBalboa · 11-01-2006, 10:45 PM

I agree. Caleb Hanie is prone to turnovers and with the BYU defense and their penchant for causing them this year....#1 in the Nation, I like our chances in getting some short fields for our offense to work with.

Also, even though Nate Meikle isn't exactly a speed demon, I'm surprised at the holes our Special Teams kickoff units have provided for him. Because of this and his shiftiniess we've had some great starting field position.

Goatnapper'96 · 11-01-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

I agree. Caleb Hanie is prone to turnovers and with the BYU defense and their penchant for causing them this year....#1 in the Nation, I like our chances in getting some short fields for our offense to work with.

Also, even though Nate Meikle isn't exactly a speed demon, I'm surprised at the holes our Special Teams kickoff units have provided for him. Because of this and his shiftiniess we've had some great starting field position.

BYU being #1 is not so much that our defense is so good at takeaways, it is because the BYU offense gives it up as often as Laurel Class Presidents on Prom night.

Keep the thighs close together men, keep the thighs close together!

Archaea · 11-01-2006, 11:29 PM

BYU also has a high number of takeaways, nationally.

This year, the ball seems to be bouncing our way, but luck only knows a mistress who is both willing and able.

Indy Coug · 11-01-2006, 11:29 PM

BYU is 18th in turnovers created and 1st in fewest turnovers lost and 1st in turnover margin.

Jeff Lebowski · 11-01-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

n time the sting of that embarassment will be erased from Bronco's memory, but I still think that he remembers that horrendous Thursday evening. I sure do.

That was probably the nadir of the BYU football for me. To endure a thrashing like that on your home field on national TV was just too much. And CSU didn't even seem to be trying that hard. We just rolled right over.

Archaea · 11-01-2006, 11:41 PM

Was that the same year as the home Boise State fiasco?

Boy, both of those were horrible, but I felt Boise State was worse, as we were literally hapless in defense and Sonny eventually let up whereas Boise State did not.

Jeff Lebowski · 11-01-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Was that the same year as the home Boise State fiasco?

Boy, both of those were horrible, but I felt Boise State was worse, as we were literally hapless in defense and Sonny eventually let up whereas Boise State did not.

I think so. Yes, that was a disaster also.

mpfunk · 11-02-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I think so. Yes, that was a disaster also.

What you call a disaster, I call compelling TV. A disaster is Utah-Boise St.

Indy Coug · 11-02-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Was that the same year as the home Boise State fiasco?

Boy, both of those were horrible, but I felt Boise State was worse, as we were literally hapless in defense and Sonny eventually let up whereas Boise State did not.

The Boise State game score is misleading as far as the defensive performance goes. The defense largely shut down BSU for the first 3 quarters with most of BSU's points coming from turnover returns for TDs and special teams play. The defense finally wore down in the 4th quarter as the weight of 3rd string Mortensen going 5 for 24 took its toll.

11-01-2006, 10:45 PM	#2
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	I agree. Caleb Hanie is prone to turnovers and with the BYU defense and their penchant for causing them this year....#1 in the Nation, I like our chances in getting some short fields for our offense to work with. Also, even though Nate Meikle isn't exactly a speed demon, I'm surprised at the holes our Special Teams kickoff units have provided for him. Because of this and his shiftiniess we've had some great starting field position. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

11-01-2006, 11:29 PM	#4
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	BYU also has a high number of takeaways, nationally. This year, the ball seems to be bouncing our way, but luck only knows a mistress who is both willing and able. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-01-2006, 11:41 PM	#7
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Was that the same year as the home Boise State fiasco? Boy, both of those were horrible, but I felt Boise State was worse, as we were literally hapless in defense and Sonny eventually let up whereas Boise State did not. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-01-2006, 10:36 PM	#1
Goatnapper'96 Recruiting Coordinator/Bosom Inspector Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,412	CSU took Bronco to the woodshed back in 2003. That was the most painful game I ever endured. I am sure they will happen again in the future as all things are cyclical with respect to sports, but I just believe that embarassment has a similar impact on Bronco as the 2001 AF blowout had on DeBerry. Don't get me wrong, Bronco is not a bitter type. Not that he has any more class than DeBerry, the dude appears to me to grasp a bigger picture and understands that petty jealousies are not conducive to a winning program. That said, his defense has been as well prepared for CSU the past two years as any game they played each season. I think BYU will come out to play this saturday. In time the sting of that embarassment will be erased from Bronco's memory, but I still think that he remembers that horrendous Thursday evening. I sure do. I also think that even while I believe the BYU defensive backfield is not as good as the front 7, they controlled Tulsa's passing offense decently. I think Tulsa has a better passing offense than CSU and I know they have a better run game. With the injuries to the CSU OL, BYU will rush 4 at the most, probably still pressure Hanie and sit back 7 into a zone coverage. The Rams have great athleticism at receiver, I think they have the most athletic receiving corps in the conference, but 7 guys can cover a great deal of space. Hanie will make enough mistakes to stall drives. When BYU has the ball I struggle to see BYU not scoring on 60-70% of its drives. CSU has a decent MWC defense, perhaps even a good one. But BYU has a really good offense and it is clicking like two hot oiled exotic dancers. The leopard skin thong will be riding tight Brethren, Cougs by 21 or more! __________________ She had a psychiatrist who said because I didn't trust the water system, the school system, the government, I was paranoid," he said. "I had a psychiatrist who said her psychiatrist was stupid."

11-01-2006, 11:29 PM	#5
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	BYU is 18th in turnovers created and 1st in fewest turnovers lost and 1st in turnover margin.