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Indy Coug · 03-12-2007, 01:36 PM

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2545050

Detroitdad · 03-12-2007, 04:12 PM

Thanks. It is just as we all suspected. Although it looks like the correlation with RPI has taken such a significant dip. I wonder why? I am not at all surprised that the mid-majors are the teams that took it in the shorts again. The empirical evidence shows such an obvious bias that it is amazing to me that the commitee sells itself as objective. Virginia as a 4 seed my butt.

Sleeping in EQ · 03-12-2007, 04:17 PM

I'm no expert on this, not by a long shot, but the brackets seem a little "cute" this year.

jay santos · 03-12-2007, 04:34 PM

Interesting, thanks. I was just going to do something like this because it looked like RPI wasn't as correlated this year. I was going to test rankings at
http://www.mratings.com/cb/compare.htm to see it RPI or computer rankings were more highly correlated. Did the committee have access to Sagarin or other rankings? This is pretty bogus. Set up a BCS-like standings with computer averages, feed the computer rules like no home games for underdogs (AHEM), the BYU Sunday rule, the no conference match up rule, and let the computer seed the teams. Give the Doctuh the time to find coaches he's fired and not pretend he's representing conference peers.

il Padrino Ute · 03-12-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Interesting, thanks. I was just going to do something like this because it looked like RPI wasn't as correlated this year. I was going to test rankings at
http://www.mratings.com/cb/compare.htm to see it RPI or computer rankings were more highly correlated. Did the committee have access to Sagarin or other rankings? This is pretty bogus. Set up a BCS-like standings with computer averages, feed the computer rules like no home games for underdogs (AHEM), the BYU Sunday rule, the no conference match up rule, and let the computer seed the teams. Give the Doctuh the time to find coaches he's fired and not pretend he's representing conference peers.

You do know that Dr. Hill is not allowed to talk about teams in his conference, no?

BYU may have been seeded lower than you thought it would, but that isn't the fault of Dr. Hill.

It seems your dislike of all things Utah is showing through. Again.

RockyBalboa · 03-12-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

You do know that Dr. Hill is not allowed to talk about teams in his conference, no?

BYU may have been seeded lower than you thought it would, but that isn't the fault of Dr. Hill.

It seems your dislike of all things Utah is showing through. Again.

As in any big corporate setting when the main person of bias topic comes up and he (wink, wink) is supposed to leave the room.....lol...right.

For the record I don't think Hill had much, if anything, to do with BYU or UNLV's seeding, but I find those who buy into the "They always leave the room schtick" highly guillable.

jay santos · 03-12-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

As in any big corporate setting when the main person of bias topic comes up and he (wink, wink) is supposed to leave the room.....lol...right.

For the record I don't think Hill had much, if anything, to do with BYU or UNLV's seeding, but I find those who buy into the "They always leave the room schtick" highly guillable.

I don't think Hill is to blame for BYU's seed. But I think Hill would sooner die than pull his weight on his committee to give BYU a better seed. When Samuelson say BYU and Utah are a partnership when it comes to sticking up for each other within and outside the conferrence, he's up in the night.

ute4ever · 03-12-2007, 09:32 PM

What was BYU's record against teams in the tournament? I note that in this thread, some fans points to USU and AFA as their marquee wins, but neither of those teams are dancing.

jay santos · 03-12-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

What was BYU's record against teams in the tournament? I note that in this thread, some fans points to USU and AFA as their marquee wins, but neither of those teams are dancing.

against tourney teams: 3-4

1-4 away
2-0 home

against top 50 RPI: 4-5

1-5 away
3-0 home

ute4ever · 03-12-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

against tourney teams: 3-4

1-4 away
2-0 home

What were those wins and losses? 1-2 vs. UNLV, right? What about the other four games?

03-12-2007, 01:36 PM	#1
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	OK, here's this year's RPI lowdown http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2545050

03-12-2007, 04:17 PM	#3
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	I'm no expert on this, not by a long shot, but the brackets seem a little "cute" this year. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

03-12-2007, 04:12 PM	#2
Detroitdad Resident Jackass Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Roswell, New Mexico Posts: 1,846	Thanks. It is just as we all suspected. Although it looks like the correlation with RPI has taken such a significant dip. I wonder why? I am not at all surprised that the mid-majors are the teams that took it in the shorts again. The empirical evidence shows such an obvious bias that it is amazing to me that the commitee sells itself as objective. Virginia as a 4 seed my butt.

03-12-2007, 04:34 PM	#4
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Interesting, thanks. I was just going to do something like this because it looked like RPI wasn't as correlated this year. I was going to test rankings at http://www.mratings.com/cb/compare.htm to see it RPI or computer rankings were more highly correlated. Did the committee have access to Sagarin or other rankings? This is pretty bogus. Set up a BCS-like standings with computer averages, feed the computer rules like no home games for underdogs (AHEM), the BYU Sunday rule, the no conference match up rule, and let the computer seed the teams. Give the Doctuh the time to find coaches he's fired and not pretend he's representing conference peers.

03-12-2007, 09:32 PM	#8
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	What was BYU's record against teams in the tournament? I note that in this thread, some fans points to USU and AFA as their marquee wins, but neither of those teams are dancing.