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Jim Swarthout · 10-28-2008, 04:47 PM

I believe SU started a thread not long ago about the Church consistently being on the wrong side of history. Joe Vogel, and LDS writer for the Huffington Post, has an excellent piece on the same theme:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vo..._b_138037.html

Jeff Lebowski · 10-28-2008, 04:56 PM

Wow. That's quite an article.

Who is this Vogel guy? The name sounds familiar.

Solon · 10-28-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Wow. That's quite an article.

Who is this Vogel guy? The name sounds familiar.

I think this is him - http://www.josephvogel.net/id2.html

Can you really get a BS in English (not a BA)?

il Padrino Ute · 10-28-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Solon

I think this is him - http://www.josephvogel.net/id2.html

Can you really get a BS in English (not a BA)?

I wonder if he was on his mission about the same time as Mike Waters.

Flystripper · 10-28-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I wonder if he was on his mission about the same time as Mike Waters.

who?

il Padrino Ute · 10-28-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Flystripper

who?

Joseph Vogel.

The link Solon provided mentions that he served a mission in Micronesia, which is where Mike served.

Flystripper · 10-28-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Joseph Vogel.

The link Solon provided mentions that he served a mission in Micronesia, which is where Mike served.

who is Mike Waters? Sounds familiar.

il Padrino Ute · 10-28-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Flystripper

who is Mike Waters? Sounds familiar.

He's a guy who may or may not be real.

HuskyFreeNorthwest · 10-29-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

He's a guy who may or may not be real.

Mike Waters is very real, I have mailed him things before.

BarbaraGordon · 10-29-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

He's a guy who may or may not be real.

He's as real as any of the rest of us.

10-28-2008, 04:47 PM	#1
Jim Swarthout Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	The Church on the Wrong Side of History Again I believe SU started a thread not long ago about the Church consistently being on the wrong side of history. Joe Vogel, and LDS writer for the Huffington Post, has an excellent piece on the same theme: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vo..._b_138037.html __________________ "Reject the basic assumption of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." - Tyler

10-28-2008, 04:56 PM	#2
Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	Wow. That's quite an article. Who is this Vogel guy? The name sounds familiar. __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr.