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Old 04-13-2007, 06:08 PM   #1
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The thought occured to me in my Greek history class today, and I want to know what you think.

So who wins: Caesar, or Alexander?
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:09 PM   #2
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Alexander unless he's sick, but which Ceasar? Nero? Constantine?
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:32 PM   #3
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Alexander unless he's sick, but which Ceasar? Nero? Constantine?
I'm assuming he means Julius Caesar, but I guess "Caesar" can also refer to Kaiser Wilhelm and Tsar Nicholas.

My favorite ancient author is Plutarch. A Greek (but Roman citizen) who lived in the 2nd century (CE), Plutarch wrote a lot of stuff, but is most famous for his Parallel Lives, where he compared the life of a famous Greek with the life of a famous Roman. Unsurprisingly, he paired (Julius) Caesar with Alexander.

Caesar's got some credentials: seasoned fighter, probably smarter than Alexander, ruthlessly calculating, in excellent physical shape (When he was in his early fifties, he fought a campaign in Egypt - this is when he hooked up with Cleopatra. While on a ship, he came under attack and the ship sank, but Caesar managed to swim to shore wearing his full armor.)

But Alexander is a little more reckless and probably a little more fierce. He grew up Macedonian - a people famous for drunken brawls. Alexander killed one of his closest friends Kleitos in a drunken rage, and was wounded in battle several times as he led the charge. Plus, he conquered most of the known world, so I would put him down as more of a risk taker.

So, I'm going to go with Alexander in a one-on-one fight (especially since Alexander grew up participating in Greek athletics, while Romans did not); I'd even go with Alexander in a single battle. But in a long war or large-scale strategy, Caesar's your man.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:12 PM   #4
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Caesar:
Advantages
Great Salad
The month of July
Toga's
Great seats at the Colloseum

Disadvantages
The month of August
Bad pizza
Ides of March
Can't trust his buddies (what if Brutus was recruited by Alexander?)

Alexander:
Advantages
Alexander the Grape was a delicious candy
Has a ton of cities named after him
First to use the grid plan for cities
Military prodigy
Conquered half the known world

Disadvantages
Would not have been allowed in today's military under Don't Ask Don't Tell
Was polygamous
Died Early
Died in Iraq

Tough call, but I'm going to go with the collective group of Caesar's on this one. While Alexander is a badass, the Caesar's can tag each other in and out to stay fresh. I'm not sure he'll have the stamina to withstand them.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:23 PM   #5
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Caesar:
Advantages
Great Salad
The month of July
Toga's
Great seats at the Colloseum

Disadvantages
The month of August
Bad pizza
Ides of March
Can't trust his buddies (what if Brutus was recruited by Alexander?)

Alexander:
Advantages
Alexander the Grape was a delicious candy
Has a ton of cities named after him
First to use the grid plan for cities
Military prodigy
Conquered half the known world

Disadvantages
Would not have been allowed in today's military under Don't Ask Don't Tell
Was polygamous
Died Early
Died in Iraq

Tough call, but I'm going to go with the collective group of Caesar's on this one. While Alexander is a badass, the Caesar's can tag each other in and out to stay fresh. I'm not sure he'll have the stamina to withstand them.
Just wondering, where does the Ceasar do fall? Advantage or disadvantage? I imagine in '99 it was an advantage as that haircut was all the rage. But once 98 Degrees, N'Sync, and the Backstreet Boys adopted it, I imagine it shifted to a disadvantage.
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Just wondering, where does the Ceasar do fall? Advantage or disadvantage? I imagine in '99 it was an advantage as that haircut was all the rage. But once 98 Degrees, N'Sync, and the Backstreet Boys adopted it, I imagine it shifted to a disadvantage.
Great point. I'm putting in the advantage category. That was my nineties' cut of choice.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:55 PM   #7
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Caesar:
Advantages
Great Salad
The month of July
Toga's
Great seats at the Colloseum

Disadvantages
The month of August
Bad pizza
Ides of March
Can't trust his buddies (what if Brutus was recruited by Alexander?)

Alexander:
Advantages
Alexander the Grape was a delicious candy
Has a ton of cities named after him
First to use the grid plan for cities
Military prodigy
Conquered half the known world

Disadvantages
Would not have been allowed in today's military under Don't Ask Don't Tell
Was polygamous
Died Early
Died in Iraq

Tough call, but I'm going to go with the collective group of Caesar's on this one. While Alexander is a badass, the Caesar's can tag each other in and out to stay fresh. I'm not sure he'll have the stamina to withstand them.
Excellent post. I'm giving this thread 5 stars just for the reference to one of my favorite childhood candies.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:08 PM   #8
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I'm assuming he means Julius Caesar, but I guess "Caesar" can also refer to Kaiser Wilhelm and Tsar Nicholas.
It could be the boxer Julio Caesar Chavez
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:07 PM   #9
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It could be the boxer Julio Caesar Chavez
Or maybe he's referring to Little Caesars pizza? In that case Caesar gets 2 nods, one for each medium pizza I get for $5.
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