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To get back to the topic, though ... I'm curious why this statement about being resurrected with normal attractions causes such handwringing. Those of you who are bothered by that statement: what do you believe about the state of those with same-sex attraction in the afterlife? Do you think they'll still have it?
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09-26-2009, 10:41 AM | #23 | |
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So here we have a promise that SSA will be wiped away, like some kind of physical handicap, while at the same time we are told that SSA is not biological. Do you see a disconnect? |
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Good for him on being an authority figure at LDS only institutions. Does he have a substantial credentials that could be recognized alongside say Harvard, Yale, or Princeton or maybe even UNC Chapel Hill? Valentinus |
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I’m not so sure the scriptures teach that we will have the same desires as a resurrected being that we had as mortals. After all, the body we receive will be incorruptible: no need of eating or washing; no chance of illness, injury, or death. Those are not trivial changes and must undoubtedly have an impact on our desires. I think it’s fair to assume that by definition, temptations and complications associated with a corruptible physical body will be gone. What the scriptures do say is that those resurrected bodies will be inhabited by the same spirit that possessed them in mortality. To me, that simply means that we don’t magically become a different person when we’re resurrected--that the deeds done in the body affect how we will be judged. I also think you’re confusing the biology issue a little. A sin or temptation can be associated with physical nature without being inborn. Drug addiction, for example, is not “in your DNA,” but is still a weakness associated with the flesh. I think it would be hard to make a compelling argument that homosexuality existed premortally or exists postmortally. Is that the argument you are making? You didn’t really answer my question.
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I agree with this. But I'm troubled by the opposite practice of God's people in the Bible and Book of Mormon. Those godly societies tolerated none of it; capital punishment. How do you account for this?
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All I have to do is look at the Taliban to realize I want no part in a religious society with no tolerance.
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Does this put the Nephites on par with the Taliban? In some respects, I think it does.
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