What's more irrational? - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

SeattleUte · 11-28-2007, 06:10 PM

...

Archaea · 11-28-2007, 06:16 PM

First, the question presupposes things that did not happen.

The non-believer did NOT name the stuffed animal. She allowed believing children to name the stuffed animal, being unaware of the sensitivity to the issue.

Second, whether Austin claimed it or simply stated it to rile up the rivals is open for debate.

Carry on with your work, it is not finished here.

OTOH, breaking down the levels of irrationality.

Allowing believing children to name a positive image stuffed animal to be named after the children's favorite idol, even a name very common in their culture. Some are offended to the extent of incarcerating the non-believer for a high crime.

This appears entirely tied to emotionality and is irrational.

The second involves a competitor potentially getting under the skin of an opponent at an emotional moment. Clearly emotion and hence irrationality is at work, but in a devious way, the rationality is also at work, in short a devious plan to rile one's neighbor. Hence, it's deviously rational.

Black Diamond Bay · 11-28-2007, 06:20 PM

Who am I to say that God doesn't care about who wins football games? I'm not going to pretend to read the mind of deity.

fuegote · 11-28-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

Who am I to say that God doesn't care about who wins football games? I'm not going to pretend to read the mind of deity.

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha seriously. bwhahahahahahahaahahah.

To think he did care means there is a level of pride involved. Sports is about pride, especially competative sports, especially college sports.

I can't believe you actually believe what you post. Take a step back and think about your comment there for a little bit. You honestly think God was fist pumping the victory while everything else in the world is going on?

It wasn't the catch that was a miracle. It wasn't that great of a catch. God didn't win that football game. Collie's righteous living didn't win that football game.

The DB's unexplainable bite on a stutter step is what lost that game for the Utes.

fuegote · 11-28-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

Who am I to say that God doesn't care about who wins football games? I'm not going to pretend to read the mind of deity.

Can I nominate this quote to the poll? This would get my vote.

Tex · 11-28-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuegote

The DB's unexplainable bite on a stutter step is what lost that game for the Utes.

... because he wasn't living right, the Lord couldn't step in and help him.

fuegote · 11-28-2007, 06:31 PM

and BDB, i've reread your post so you don't need to insult me.

(just thought I would beat you to the punch).

SeattleUte · 11-28-2007, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

Who am I to say that God doesn't care about who wins football games? I'm not going to pretend to read the mind of deity.

A "magical" God that intervenes personally in the affairs of men seemed to Einstein to be as destructive of a sense of wonder at the cosmos as blighted atheism. Today educated people by and large reject such a quaint idea as a "magical" God. Mormons, though, believe God will intervene to affect outcomes of sporting events, as he allows jets operated by terrorists to slam into the World Trade Center towers. What an attractive world view.

fuegote · 11-28-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

... because he wasn't living right, the Lord couldn't step in and help him.

By doing what? Making the pass a duck and making it fall short?
By "prompting" him to not break on the fake (as though the spirit didn't have other things to do)?
By tripping up Collie?

If it was a mormon db who was living the gospel similarly to Collie and he still got beat.... what then? Why didn't the Lord stop in and help him?

Black Diamond Bay · 11-28-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuegote

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha seriously. bwhahahahahahahaahahah.

To think he did care means there is a level of pride involved. Sports is about pride, especially competative sports, especially college sports.

I can't believe you actually believe what you post. Take a step back and think about your comment there for a little bit. You honestly think God was fist pumping the victory while everything else in the world is going on?

It wasn't the catch that was a miracle. It wasn't that great of a catch. God didn't win that football game. Collie's righteous living didn't win that football game.

The DB's unexplainable bite on a stutter step is what lost that game for the Utes.

...and in typical ute fashion you took my comment that I don't know and twisted it into something entirely different.

If Collie believes God helped him haul that pass in, I'm not going to tell him he didn't, because I don't have the arrogance to claim that I know.

View Poll Results: What's more irrational?
To become offended when non-believers name a stuffed animal after your primary religious figure?	9	75.00%
To claim God helped you win a football game?	3	25.00%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

11-28-2007, 06:10 PM	#1
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	What's more irrational? ... __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

11-28-2007, 06:16 PM	#2
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	First, the question presupposes things that did not happen. The non-believer did NOT name the stuffed animal. She allowed believing children to name the stuffed animal, being unaware of the sensitivity to the issue. Second, whether Austin claimed it or simply stated it to rile up the rivals is open for debate. Carry on with your work, it is not finished here. OTOH, breaking down the levels of irrationality. Allowing believing children to name a positive image stuffed animal to be named after the children's favorite idol, even a name very common in their culture. Some are offended to the extent of incarcerating the non-believer for a high crime. This appears entirely tied to emotionality and is irrational. The second involves a competitor potentially getting under the skin of an opponent at an emotional moment. Clearly emotion and hence irrationality is at work, but in a devious way, the rationality is also at work, in short a devious plan to rile one's neighbor. Hence, it's deviously rational. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-28-2007, 06:31 PM	#7
fuegote Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 724	and BDB, i've reread your post so you don't need to insult me. (just thought I would beat you to the punch). __________________ http://www.cavaliersbrigade.com home of the greatest fans in MLS.

11-28-2007, 06:20 PM	#3
Black Diamond Bay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,000	Who am I to say that God doesn't care about who wins football games? I'm not going to pretend to read the mind of deity.