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MikeWaters · 01-03-2009, 03:40 PM

last 3 quarters that I recorded.

Utah vs. Alabama.

I'm really proud of how Utah represented the MWC.

I'm glad that the BCS is further exposed as a farce. I'm glad that Utah pierced the media lies of BCS superiority.

As a (marginal) BYU fan, I have to say, there is a tall mountain to climb here, getting back to the top of the MWC.

Kyle Whittingham > Bronco Mendenhall. And right now, it's not even close.

MikeWaters · 01-03-2009, 03:44 PM

I should add that this is the greatest performance by a non-BCS team in a BCS bowl, hands-down.

Not the best game. BSU was the best game. But the best performance.

MikeWaters · 01-03-2009, 03:47 PM

Oh yeah, the cherry on top was Barry Switzer, Okie white-trash idiot, making a complete ass of himself.

SeattleUte · 01-03-2009, 04:02 PM

Amen, brother. I've always thought you were wise beyond your years.

Tex · 01-03-2009, 04:56 PM

I agree, Utah did exceptionally well. Non-BCS is now, what, 3-1 in BCS bowls?

Archaea · 01-03-2009, 06:05 PM

Utah did it with an expected business model. It is not from a large media market, does not have natural access to speedy, talented athletes, is often not the first choice for local athletes, but Whittingham has intelligently worked his system to his advantage.

He's in a conference where it is easy to stand out, he recruits kids just missed by the higher profile programs, has enough Church connection to get good dedicated kids, but not too Churchy that they turn their backs on hard work and becoming excellent in something. It's a difficult business model, but BYU if it had a better vision for excellence could emulate Utah and in some respects surpass it. But Bronco is not near the game coach Whit is, not even close.

Utah with Whit is a great big game team. Utah may be defeated if and when its talent simply doesn't match up, but it will always come ready, prepared to play under Whit. In small games, they may lose their focus.

Utah played a game to be proud of. It showed TCU and BYU that with proper game management, both programs can better the snobby schools. Hats off to Whit, whom I always wanted for BYU.

Tex · 01-03-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Utah did it with an expected business model. It is not from a large media market, does not have natural access to speedy, talented athletes, is often not the first choice for local athletes, but Whittingham has intelligently worked his system to his advantage.

He's in a conference where it is easy to stand out, he recruits kids just missed by the higher profile programs, has enough Church connection to get good dedicated kids, but not too Churchy that they turn their backs on hard work and becoming excellent in something. It's a difficult business model, but BYU if it had a better vision for excellence could emulate Utah and in some respects surpass it. But Bronco is not near the game coach Whit is, not even close.

Utah with Whit is a great big game team. Utah may be defeated if and when its talent simply doesn't match up, but it will always come ready, prepared to play under Whit. In small games, they may lose their focus.

Utah played a game to be proud of. It showed TCU and BYU that with proper game management, both programs can better the snobby schools. Hats off to Whit, whom I always wanted for BYU.

Just one curiosity: is that what you think it means to be "churchy"?

SeattleUte · 01-03-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea

Utah did it with an expected business model. It is not from a large media market, does not have natural access to speedy, talented athletes, is often not the first choice for local athletes, but Whittingham has intelligently worked his system to his advantage.

He's in a conference where it is easy to stand out, he recruits kids just missed by the higher profile programs, has enough Church connection to get good dedicated kids, but not too Churchy that they turn their backs on hard work and becoming excellent in something. It's a difficult business model, but BYU if it had a better vision for excellence could emulate Utah and in some respects surpass it. But Bronco is not near the game coach Whit is, not even close.

Utah with Whit is a great big game team. Utah may be defeated if and when its talent simply doesn't match up, but it will always come ready, prepared to play under Whit. In small games, they may lose their focus.

Utah played a game to be proud of. It showed TCU and BYU that with proper game management, both programs can better the snobby schools. Hats off to Whit, whom I always wanted for BYU.

What is the "Church connection" with Brian Johnson, Matt Asiata, David Reed, Sean Smith, Richard Johnson, Fred Brown, Brent Casteel, and Louie Sakoda?

MikeWaters · 01-03-2009, 08:51 PM

This may be the first time that I have really seen a top-tier BCS team look absolutely out-athleted. Not out-smarted. Not out-schemed. Out-athleted.

il Padrino Ute · 01-03-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What is the "Church connection" with Brian Johnson, Matt Asiata, David Reed, Sean Smith, Richard Johnson, Fred Brown, Brent Casteel, and Louie Sakoda?

Matt Asiata is LDS. By not living here, you missed out on the fun when Asiata talked about praying and receiving an answer to play at Utah.

There is a huge church connection for Utah. It's ok to accept that, SU.

01-03-2009, 03:40 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Just watched the game last 3 quarters that I recorded. Utah vs. Alabama. I'm really proud of how Utah represented the MWC. I'm glad that the BCS is further exposed as a farce. I'm glad that Utah pierced the media lies of BCS superiority. As a (marginal) BYU fan, I have to say, there is a tall mountain to climb here, getting back to the top of the MWC. Kyle Whittingham > Bronco Mendenhall. And right now, it's not even close.

01-03-2009, 04:02 PM	#4
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Amen, brother. I've always thought you were wise beyond your years. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

01-03-2009, 04:56 PM	#5
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	I agree, Utah did exceptionally well. Non-BCS is now, what, 3-1 in BCS bowls? __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

01-03-2009, 06:05 PM	#6
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Utah did it with an expected business model. It is not from a large media market, does not have natural access to speedy, talented athletes, is often not the first choice for local athletes, but Whittingham has intelligently worked his system to his advantage. He's in a conference where it is easy to stand out, he recruits kids just missed by the higher profile programs, has enough Church connection to get good dedicated kids, but not too Churchy that they turn their backs on hard work and becoming excellent in something. It's a difficult business model, but BYU if it had a better vision for excellence could emulate Utah and in some respects surpass it. But Bronco is not near the game coach Whit is, not even close. Utah with Whit is a great big game team. Utah may be defeated if and when its talent simply doesn't match up, but it will always come ready, prepared to play under Whit. In small games, they may lose their focus. Utah played a game to be proud of. It showed TCU and BYU that with proper game management, both programs can better the snobby schools. Hats off to Whit, whom I always wanted for BYU. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

01-03-2009, 03:44 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I should add that this is the greatest performance by a non-BCS team in a BCS bowl, hands-down. Not the best game. BSU was the best game. But the best performance.

01-03-2009, 03:47 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Oh yeah, the cherry on top was Barry Switzer, Okie white-trash idiot, making a complete ass of himself.

01-03-2009, 08:51 PM	#9
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	This may be the first time that I have really seen a top-tier BCS team look absolutely out-athleted. Not out-smarted. Not out-schemed. Out-athleted.