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RockyBalboa · 08-16-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyHippieUTE

Anything goes as long as it is legal? Are you sure that's the standard? You're setting the bar pretty low.

How about a we like to masturbate while thinking about teacher club?

Should the "I like to eat my own feces club" have a faculty advisor? They could promote tolerance between the kids who eat their own turds and the kids who don't eat their own turds.

What about a neo-nazi group who believe that the world will be a much better place if everybody would just accept that whites are a superior race and should rule the world?

Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is right or that it should be in our schools.

The legal standard wont work. The law isn't the high mark it is the absolute minimum we will accept. The idea is to create an enviroment where children can learn.

Does having a thousand special interest/political activist groups on campus really lend itself to that goal?

Significant? So what? What does the fact that it is a significant group have to do with whether or not it has a place in public schools?

Many groups have proven their significance thru numbers. That doesn't make them appropriate.

Hell... The KKK is a hugely significant group. Does that doesn't grant them a place at Springville HS?

Nice line... That's like when Snipe asks people "What is it about freedom that you hate?"

Try to villanize me but the truth is that I'm just not buying your line of crap.

Is it tolerance that the GSA is really after? Do they want to be tolerated or accepted? How do the kids in the GSA feel about the right wing nut jobs who think they're all going to hell? Do they feel like they should have a place in the school?

Get right down to the bare bones. The GSA and other groups like it want people to accept homosexuality as a natural and appropriate behavior. They are intolerant of my belief that what they are doing is sick and wrong.

Now tell me how "closed minded" I am because I don't see it your way.

Hippie you're wasting your time with Robin. I mean this is a man who thinks it's a good idea to deliberately harm and abuse his son in exposing him to the very worst life has to offer in Burning Man and other examples cited by him.

DirtyHippieUTE · 08-16-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin

What would you offer as an alternative for determining which clubs should be allowed in school?

IMHO clubs should only be an extension of academic programs or competative sports/events. If there is a class or a sanctioned district "league" then it's all good. Otherwise it doesn't belong in public school...

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Originally Posted by Robin

The educating capability of schools is enhanced by chess clubs, drama clubs, computer game programming clubs

We're good up to here... Maybe not chess clubs

Football is a class.
Dance is a class.
Drama is a drama.
Band is a class.
Computer programing... I'm going to assume there is a computer programming class.
FFA, FHA and several others are associated with vo-ed programs.
Swim Team is a district event

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Originally Posted by Robin

athletic supporter clubs, bible study clubs and the gsa

Off campus... This is why we have churches, rec centers and other privately funded and non-profit groups.

Robin · 08-16-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Hippie you're wasting your time with Robin. I mean this is a man who thinks it's a good idea to deliberately harm and abuse his son in exposing him to the very worst life has to offer in Burning Man and other examples cited by him.

From calling MikeWaters a "Mormon Intellectual," to calling him "the very worst life has to offer," you, my friend, are all over the map.

RockyBalboa · 08-16-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin

From calling MikeWaters a "Mormon Intellectual," to calling him "the very worst life has to offer," you, my friend, are all over the map.

All over the map....this from a guy who revels in mentally, emotionally and spiritually abusing and manipulating his wife and child and then thinking it's funny.

I feel bad for them.