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Given that there are all sorts and degrees of fatalism, and given that the only one that has called what Archaea said 'fatalism' is you (at least I don't recall that he ever said that), and given that you were the only one that has so far said his approach has no point whatsoever, I thought there might be something more I was missing besides your feeling that it is a self-evident truth. Sorry. If one is a fatalist, why not let other people know they are wasting their time?
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Unless, you've financed, run and particpated in campaigns from grass roots to upper management, then you won't understand my frustration. Most people involved in politics start out naively, bright-eyed and bushy tailed, moving from that to the outrage of the newly informed, to the hardened pragmatists who try to get done what can be done until you reach burnout. These people are scum. They develop this style of never answering a question, never showing true emotion and basically ridding themselves of their own humanity all the while feeding their own egomaniacal tendencies. There are large movements that change society in a Hegelian sense, but individuals don't make a difference in the macrosense. In your local community, you make a difference, but in the large picture, you're an ant trying to stop a glacier. You can either move aside or move to the top of the berg to ride along, but stopping it won't happen through your actions, despite all the mindless philosophies to the contrary. One affects the micro, not the macro; it's in the math. Christ was the only exception, and most his accomplishments affected the macro decades later.
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Fatalism is not what I mean. Forces beyond our control, by our I mean the average middle class citizenry. If one belongs to a part of the ruling oligarchy, one affects change only by following the oligarchy.
Mexico is a stark example of this syndrome, and the US is simply far more sophisticated but we work upon the same principles. It's the fools who believe the average bloke has a say who are fooling themselves. Things are predetermined as the fatalist says. They are beyond the average man's control. That's different as nothing is determined, just beyond control.
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