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TripletDaddy · 10-31-2008, 06:53 PM

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What the hell are you waiting for?

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smokymountainrain · 10-31-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Maybe you can point to the cataclysm predicted by No on Prop 8 if the measure passes.

I can cite loads of things the Yes on Prop 8 group has predicted.....a few months ago, there was a pamphlet talking about an attack on democracy itself if Prop 8 were to fail. Our kids, the Church's tax exempt status, this very thread is wondering if temples would close. That is fearmongering.

As far as I know, the No camp has complained of unfair treatment under the law and discrimination.

I am open to be educated. Has the No camp predicted horrible things to come in the future if Prop 8 passes?

DDD, I apologize for dragging you into a potential discussion with a Prop 8 retard. I haven't followed this at all other than the little I've read on CG and CB.

But I have followed politics for a long time and rarely have I seen (and by rarely, I mean never) one side of the fence be completely truthful while the other continuously resorts to "half-truths". It just doesn't happen. Maybe this is a first. I will accept that as a possibility if you say it is so as you are 100x more educated on this issue than I am.

TripletDaddy · 10-31-2008, 06:58 PM

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Precedence has no relevance ... nope, none at all ... lawyers and courts don't rely on precedence, nope not a... maybe you should start drawing bananas.

Thanks counselor.

I hadn't thought of precedence.

I guess we are screwed. Especially when that first lawyer in the US cites to Canadian law. That is some persuasive jurisdiction right there!

PS the Boy Scout case would not be precedent for the state of California violating the First Amendment as it pertains to freedom of religion..since the boy scout case is not about freedom of religion. You should watch more than 2 or 3 episodes of LA Law before you start making legal pronouncements.

I like you tooblue and think you are toocool, so I will now recuse myself and get sketching my bowl of fruit.

SeattleUte · 10-31-2008, 07:00 PM

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TripletDaddy · 10-31-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smokymountainrain

DDD, I apologize for dragging you into a potential discussion with a Prop 8 retard. I haven't followed this at all other than the little I've read on CG and CB.

But I have followed politics for a long time and rarely have I seen (and by rarely, I mean never) one side of the fence be completely truthful while the other continuously resorts to "half-truths". It just doesn't happen. Maybe this is a first. I will accept that as a possibility if you say it is so as you are 100x more educated on this issue than I am.

well I agree...the no camp has also been self serving.

One good example was the earliest commercials they were running...it depicted a heterosexual couple trying to get married but all these obstacles prevented them from actually getting married. The narrator appealed to emotion and said, 'what if you couldnt marry the person you love?"

I found that to be incredibly misleading and poor sportsmanship, as well.

However, in this particular issue, the No camp has referenced actual CA law, CA education code, the State Superintendent of SChools has spoken out on the issue.......while the Yes camp has referenced a negative experience in Massachusetts and offered no other legal foundation for any of the things it is floating.

Either way, the bottom line is that BYU is not going to a BCS bowl game this year and that makes me mad.

Tex · 10-31-2008, 07:02 PM

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The Boy Scout analogy isnt relevant, which you seem to acknowledge, so not sure why it is even there.

Will some groups try to file a lawsuit? I agree, some may try. Again, how will it even get past summary judgment? What is the legal basis? There is none.

Undoubtedly the questions asked by liberal legal minds to their conservative friends, when discussing the Dale lawsuit, July 29, 1992.

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Back to your cocoon of fear, my friend. Probably more comfy in there, anyway.

Me in my cocoon, you with your head in the sand.

smokymountainrain · 10-31-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

However, in this particular issue, the No camp has referenced actual CA law, CA education code, the State Superintendent of SChools has spoken out on the issue.......while the Yes camp has referenced a negative experience in Massachusetts and offered no other legal foundation for any of the things it is floating.

Fair enough.

Either way, the bottom line is that BYU is not going to a BCS bowl game this year and that makes me mad.

I'll see you in Vegas, baby!