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outlier · 10-14-2005, 11:18 PM

If so, what is it? I'd like to know what kind of group I was joining up with before, you know, joining up. I mean, theres "for the environment" and then there's "for the ENVIRONMENT".

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MikeWaters · 10-14-2005, 11:24 PM

that's what we need to work on. we have no platform.

outlier · 10-14-2005, 11:40 PM

Any general sense of what it should stand for?

Is it like a relatively-rabid Greenpeace-style organizations for Mormons? Or a somewhat more pragmatic "for the environment, but there are limits to what we'll sacrifice for the environment" situation?

More national parks? Or should they be privatized?

Oil or ANWAR?

Anti-SUV?

Advocating more government intervention/spending? or more public awareness?

I'm not sure how I feel about any of this myself. I worry that there is no study anywhere in the world that doesn't bear the biases of its creator, whether pro-environment or pro-industry, wherefore it's hard to get a grip on what the *actual* situation is. As such, I think it's hard to be specific in one's ideologies in this regard -- you end up believing what you want to believe. Oh well. Maybe it'd be easier to try and identify the future ideal than the specific, more-immediate platform planks.

Ideals:
1. Nothing goes extinct.
2. No humans starve.
3. The world's climates remain stable.
4. Human quality of life allowed to continue improving.

My greatest concern is that 1 and 3 necessarily conflict with 2 and 4.

My $.02, FWIW, IMHO, and all sorts of 4-character disclaimers.

o

SoCalCoug · 10-14-2005, 11:48 PM

I want to join!

Seriously, though, environmental outlook is one of the areas where I identify very strongly with the Democrats.

Problem is, I drive an 8-cylinder car - is that grounds for disqualification? I guess in mitigation, it is named after an animal.

Archaea · 10-14-2005, 11:52 PM

reasons:

I represent a lot of jerks, just kidding.

I represent diverse persons most of which don't identify with Mormons.

I like the environment, just don't like extremes on either side.

Hmm, let me think, as in my environment I'm frequently discouraged from thinking or using my brain.

MikeWaters · 10-15-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

Problem is, I drive an 8-cylinder car - is that grounds for disqualification? I guess in mitigation, it is named after an animal.

Technically a gremlin is a creature, not an animal.

SoCalCoug · 10-15-2005, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Technically a gremlin is a creature, not an animal.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But, man, can that thing fly! Except I keep outrunning my hubcaps.

Parrot Head · 10-15-2005, 03:19 AM

While I'm not yet sold on the platform-less MOFOEs, I do believe I will join Archaea's group. Each of us will proudly be one of those
Against Sexual Slavery by Conniving Ladies Only Wanting their Needs Served.

Will you join us in this great crusade?

(We do not discriminate among the shackled and unshackled.)

Archaea · 10-15-2005, 04:25 AM

We stand for many things to many people.

Anonymous · 10-15-2005, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

We stand for many things to many people.

Ah -- it's like a consulting firm!

10-14-2005, 11:18 PM	#1
outlier Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 180	Does MOFOE have a platform? If so, what is it? I'd like to know what kind of group I was joining up with before, you know, joining up. I mean, theres "for the environment" and then there's "for the ENVIRONMENT". o __________________ Es irrt der Mensch solang er strebt. -J. W. v. Goethe (OTOH, just because you screw up, that doesn\'t mean you\'re getting somewhere.) The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. - W. Churchill

10-14-2005, 11:40 PM	#3
outlier Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 180	Any general sense of what it should stand for? Is it like a relatively-rabid Greenpeace-style organizations for Mormons? Or a somewhat more pragmatic "for the environment, but there are limits to what we'll sacrifice for the environment" situation? More national parks? Or should they be privatized? Oil or ANWAR? Anti-SUV? Advocating more government intervention/spending? or more public awareness? I'm not sure how I feel about any of this myself. I worry that there is no study anywhere in the world that doesn't bear the biases of its creator, whether pro-environment or pro-industry, wherefore it's hard to get a grip on what the actual situation is. As such, I think it's hard to be specific in one's ideologies in this regard -- you end up believing what you want to believe. Oh well. Maybe it'd be easier to try and identify the future ideal than the specific, more-immediate platform planks. Ideals: 1. Nothing goes extinct. 2. No humans starve. 3. The world's climates remain stable. 4. Human quality of life allowed to continue improving. My greatest concern is that 1 and 3 necessarily conflict with 2 and 4. My $.02, FWIW, IMHO, and all sorts of 4-character disclaimers. o __________________ Es irrt der Mensch solang er strebt. -J. W. v. Goethe (OTOH, just because you screw up, that doesn\'t mean you\'re getting somewhere.) The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. - W. Churchill

10-14-2005, 11:48 PM	#4
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	I want to join! Seriously, though, environmental outlook is one of the areas where I identify very strongly with the Democrats. Problem is, I drive an 8-cylinder car - is that grounds for disqualification? I guess in mitigation, it is named after an animal. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

10-14-2005, 11:52 PM	#5
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	I want to be counsel for MOFOE reasons: I represent a lot of jerks, just kidding. I represent diverse persons most of which don't identify with Mormons. I like the environment, just don't like extremes on either side. Hmm, let me think, as in my environment I'm frequently discouraged from thinking or using my brain. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-15-2005, 04:25 AM	#9
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	As Charter Members, Parrothead and I invite you all We stand for many things to many people. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-14-2005, 11:24 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	that's what we need to work on. we have no platform.

10-15-2005, 03:19 AM	#8
Parrot Head Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 763	While I'm not yet sold on the platform-less MOFOEs, I do believe I will join Archaea's group. Each of us will proudly be one of those Against Sexual Slavery by Conniving Ladies Only Wanting their Needs Served. Will you join us in this great crusade? (We do not discriminate among the shackled and unshackled.)