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Mormon Red Death · 06-14-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I don't think the poll was asking why the Church is against homosexual marriage.

It is asking why the Church is against homosexual sex. All the poll choices revolved around sex, not marriage.

Your answer, while certainly plausible, simply begs the question as to why married homosexual couples would be sinning were they to be married. Hence, back to the sex question.

I know what the poll was asking. My response was more of an arrival how I feel about the issue.

SoCalCoug · 06-19-2008, 04:30 PM

I was thinking about this a little bit yesterday as I drove through west L.A.

I voted that the prohibition is because it contradicts the commandment to multiply and replenish the earth.

But it's not very logical, I believe, as applied to homosexuals, because the church's current position is that they should remain celibate - thus, they can't "multiply and replenish the earth" anyway. In other words, if they remain celibate, they can't multiply and replenish the earth, but they can remain in full activity. So, marrying another homosexual doesn't have any effect on their likelihood of "breaking" the multiplying and replenishing the earth commandment.

SoCalCoug · 06-24-2008, 04:06 PM

I'm really not trying just to keep bumping this thread up to the top. I think the results really are interesting. As I was looking through the results this morning, it really seems to me that the choices that got the most votes were the most general of the statements, while the specific options received much fewer votes.

Is it because we really don't have an understanding at all for the reasoning behind the church's stance? It seems to me that the more specific reasons that I was able to identify are too easily answered.

Of course, it could be like many seem to believe - it's not for us to understand. But are there really any commandments / church policies for which the underlying basis is unknowable?

exUte · 06-26-2008, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

It is genetic. As to your other questions, I don't know.

But nice try.

View Poll Results: What is the primary premise underlying the church's stance on homosexual relations?
Anal sex is inherently immoral	1	2.44%
Oral sex is inherently immoral	0	0%
Both anal and oral sex is inherently immoral	0	0%
Sexual relations with someone of the same sex is inherently immoral	22	53.66%
Sexual relations with someone you cannot have children with is inherently immoral	1	2.44%
Homosexual relations undermine the structure of the family	14	34.15%
Homosexual relations are against the natural order of things	12	29.27%
Homosexual relations contradict the commandment to multiply and replenish the earth	9	21.95%
Only God knows	6	14.63%
None of the above	8	19.51%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

06-19-2008, 04:30 PM	#42
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	I was thinking about this a little bit yesterday as I drove through west L.A. I voted that the prohibition is because it contradicts the commandment to multiply and replenish the earth. But it's not very logical, I believe, as applied to homosexuals, because the church's current position is that they should remain celibate - thus, they can't "multiply and replenish the earth" anyway. In other words, if they remain celibate, they can't multiply and replenish the earth, but they can remain in full activity. So, marrying another homosexual doesn't have any effect on their likelihood of "breaking" the multiplying and replenishing the earth commandment. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

06-24-2008, 04:06 PM	#43
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	I'm really not trying just to keep bumping this thread up to the top. I think the results really are interesting. As I was looking through the results this morning, it really seems to me that the choices that got the most votes were the most general of the statements, while the specific options received much fewer votes. Is it because we really don't have an understanding at all for the reasoning behind the church's stance? It seems to me that the more specific reasons that I was able to identify are too easily answered. Of course, it could be like many seem to believe - it's not for us to understand. But are there really any commandments / church policies for which the underlying basis is unknowable? __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug