Gay and Mormon

[Solon]

Originally Posted by Anthesian

I'm gay and Mormon. I don't support the position the church takes on this subject. I have been with my partner for 3 years and we have a gospel and Christ centered relationship.

The suicides of gay Mormons is unexcusable. I take something that a former bishop once said very seriously: "Any moral standard or principle that drives a child of God to do harm to another or to him/herself is no moral standard". This means that "To the One", and "For the Young Men Only" no longer stand up to the true teachings of Christ.

I believe this is one aspect of life that the General Authorities are getting wrong.

My partner and I love the Lord and do the best we can to serve him.

I appreciate the honesty and willingness of members of this board to express them selves so bluntly.

Dwayne

Welcome! Thanks for taking the time to post. I think your point of view will be a valuable one on this site.

If you are so inclined, there's an introduction category.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Anthesian

I'm gay and Mormon. I don't support the position the church takes on this subject. I have been with my partner for 3 years and we have a gospel and Christ centered relationship.

The suicides of gay Mormons is unexcusable. I take something that a former bishop once said very seriously: "Any moral standard or principle that drives a child of God to do harm to another or to him/herself is no moral standard". This means that "To the One", and "For the Young Men Only" no longer stand up to the true teachings of Christ.

I believe this is one aspect of life that the General Authorities are getting wrong.

My partner and I love the Lord and do the best we can to serve him.

I appreciate the honesty and willingness of members of this board to express them selves so bluntly.

Dwayne

Wow. Fascinating story. Keep posting. I'm a little skeptical just because your story so far sounds unbelievable if your ward remotely resembles my ward, but I'm glad it's a good situation for you.

[Anthesian]

Originally Posted by Levin

You are blessed with a very loving family, ward, and neighborhood. Congrats on the two little girls! Where are the girls from?

My wife is pregnant and we're hoping to high heaven that it's a little girl.

Thank you!
The girls are from Chicago. They were abandoned. We are excited.

Dwayne

[Anthesian]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Wow. Fascinating story. Keep posting. I'm a little skeptical just because your story so far sounds unbelievable if your ward remotely resembles my ward, but I'm glad it's a good situation for you.

I understand your skepticism. It didn't start out as nice as it is now. The original Bishop when we moved into the ward asked us not to attend as a couple at all. It took a while for the ward members to actually take the time to get to know us. I'm glad it changed. I'm very grateful.

Dwayne

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Anthesian

I understand your skepticism. It didn't start out as nice as it is now. The original Bishop when we moved into the ward asked us not to attend as a couple at all. It took a while for the ward members to actually take the time to get to know us. I'm glad it changed. I'm very grateful.

Dwayne

That's good. I would love to see all wards in the church react this way to "sinners". Quote marks because I think the terms is somewhat absurd being that we are all sinners.

Are you under formal discipline from the church? How are you allowed to bear testimony and participate otherwise in callings and meetings?

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Anthesian

I understand your skepticism. It didn't start out as nice as it is now. The original Bishop when we moved into the ward asked us not to attend as a couple at all. It took a while for the ward members to actually take the time to get to know us. I'm glad it changed. I'm very grateful.

Dwayne

Dwayne,

Welcome hermano.

Please post here very often. There are those here who will welcome you and your partner. Are you guys BYU football fans or Utah football fans? How did you find this site?

[Anthesian]

Originally Posted by jay santos

That's good. I would love to see all wards in the church react this way to "sinners". Quote marks because I think the terms is somewhat absurd being that we are all sinners.

Are you under formal discipline from the church? How are you allowed to bear testimony and participate otherwise in callings and meetings?

Since we have been excommunicated for about a year and half, our bishop has recently allowed us to bear testimony as non members. We can engage in discussion in Sunday School and Elder's Quorum but nothing beyond that. No callings.

Dwayne

[MikeWaters]

When the old bishop asked you not to attend as a couple, how did you handle that? Did you attend separate wards? Did you attend the same ward, but sit in different places? Did you not attend?

[Anthesian]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Dwayne,

Welcome hermano.

Please post here very often. There are those here who will welcome you and your partner. Are you guys BYU football fans or Utah football fans? How did you find this site?

I found the site while googling for Paul Toscano's "All Is Not Well In Zion: False Teachings of the True Church".

He is a BYU fan and I'm a Utah fan. When our respective teams play eachother we sit on opposite sides of the couch. We're dorks...I know. But I love him.

Dwayne

[scottie]

Originally Posted by Anthesian

I understand your skepticism. It didn't start out as nice as it is now. The original Bishop when we moved into the ward asked us not to attend as a couple at all. It took a while for the ward members to actually take the time to get to know us. I'm glad it changed. I'm very grateful.

Dwayne

Does it seem odd that our buildings say "Visitors Welcome", yet this Bishop asked you to not attend as a couple? Or when you say "as a couple" did that only mean you could attend but without showing any signs of affection?