the 40 million uninsured is the Health care boogey man

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

so you go from published 5-10% to your guess of 30-35% "just because"?

you're going to have to make a better argument.

http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/re...ublication.pdf

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I agree. And Cobra is way too expensive for your average American who is struggling to find health insurance. It is a nice bridge for those with cash.

Your hospital can pay your cobra ...

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/re...ublication.pdf

Nice find. You do know that this is a publication of insurance companies, right? Can you find a source that is not tainted?

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Nice find. You do know that this is a publication of insurance companies, right? Can you find a source that is not tainted?

If you want to believe that Medicaid only has 10% admin cost so be it. Do you also believe we have a balanced budget?

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

One other point that I think is interesting. In Dallas, there is a county hospital system. All county residents pay taxes to support it. They cover medical care for something like 55% of the indigent. That means that 45% is covered by other hospitals.

They are going to build a new hospital, and the county board decided that this number should not change. In other words, they dictate what percent will be covered by private hospitals. Because if they fold up shop, 100% will be covered by private hospitals. The choice of beds is critical. This is sort of de facto socialism.

Michigan does something similar where all the medicaid for each hospital is tabulated then those with higher medicaid population get cash and those with no medicaid get taxed

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

If you want to believe that Medicaid only has 10% admin cost so be it. Do you also believe we have a balanced budget?

I don't "want" to believe anything. I'm asking if you can find a neutral respected party who says that administrative costs for medicaid and medicare are higher.

You are the one out on a limb by saying this, not me.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Michigan does something similar where all the medicaid for each hospital is tabulated then those with higher medicaid population get cash and those with no medicaid get taxed

I'm not talking about medicaid. I'm talking about charity care.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I don't "want" to believe anything. I'm asking if you can find a neutral respected party who says that administrative costs for medicaid and medicare are higher.

You are the one out on a limb by saying this, not me.

Sure as soon as you back up all your claims with a neutral respected party. Remember that your claims were anectdotal

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I agree. And Cobra is way too expensive for your average American who is struggling to find health insurance. It is a nice bridge for those with cash.

Have a link to back it up?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Sure as soon as you back up all your claims with a neutral respected party. Remember that your claims were anectdotal

I'm basing my claims on my memory of what I have read and heard. It sounds like your brief foray into researching this confirmed what I remembered.

What I am saying is the standard accepted fact.