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BarbaraGordon · 03-05-2008, 07:53 PM

It's looking like the delegate haul from yesterday was 187 Hillary, 183 Obama. In order to remain viable, Senator Clinton needed to make significant gains on Obama's 100 delegate lead. With the three state win, she says her campaign has "turned the corner," but does anyone really believe a four delegate win is enough to turn the tide? Obama had projected a month ago that he would lose both Texas and Ohio by greater margins and still head to the convention with a 100 delegate lead. He's currently well ahead of his projected timeline in garnering delegates. (He had anticipated a 60 delegate lead at this point.)

Long-term victory for Hillary is implausible at best. I feel like it would have been better for her if she'd been put out of her misery yesterday, once and for all. On the other hand, if you hate the Democrats, and want to watch them make a muddled mess of themselves, things couldn't be working out better.

il Padrino Ute · 03-05-2008, 07:58 PM

I do enjoy watching the battle between bad and worse. Very fun stuff.

I disagree about it being best for Mrs. Clinton to lose now and end her run. I want to see the look on her entitled face when she can't have what she thinks is hers. And to watch Bill fret about it will be very amusing as well.

myboynoah · 03-05-2008, 08:04 PM

Didn't you hear Hillary yesterday? Bill didn't get the needed delegates until June! No need to rush.

This is great theatre. Michigan and Florida loom large out there. Let's take this thing all the way to Denver. By then John Lewis may be ready to flip back to Hillary.

il Padrino Ute · 03-05-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

Didn't you hear Hillary yesterday? Bill didn't get the needed delegates until June! No need to rush.

This is great theatre. Michigan and Florida loom large out there. Let's take this thing all the way to Denver. By then John Lewis may be ready to flip back to Hillary.

Michigan and Florida slipped my mind. Mrs. Clinton will demand that they be allowed.

This is going to be fun.

malapert · 03-05-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Long-term victory for Hillary is implausible at best. I feel like it would have been better for her if she'd been put out of her misery yesterday, once and for all. On the other hand, if you hate the Democrats, and want to watch them make a muddled mess of themselves, things couldn't be working out better.

Since we will never get to listen to her sarcastic cackle and self-serving prattle following this election cycle, why not enjoy the ride just a little longer?

Like Dukakis, Gore and Kerry before her, this is her one and only shot at being nominated by her party. Call me a masochist, I want more. Besides, softening Obama up a little more can't hurt.

BarbaraGordon · 03-05-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Michigan and Florida slipped my mind. Mrs. Clinton will demand that they be allowed.

This is going to be fun.

Crist is already talkling about a revote.

Requiem · 03-05-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Crist is already talkling about a revote.

The fountain of all truth, Tim Russert, said FL would spend $10M to revote. Regardless, doesn't it still come down to the superdelegates?

BarbaraGordon · 03-05-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

The fountain of all truth, Tim Russert, said FL would spend $10M to revote. Regardless, doesn't it still come down to the superdelegates?

Correct.

YOhio · 03-05-2008, 08:38 PM

Hoopla is a great word, alot of fun to say.

il Padrino Ute · 03-05-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Crist is already talkling about a revote.

I hadn't heard that. It's time to grab a large Coke and a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show.

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Originally Posted by YOhio

Hoopla is a great word, alot of fun to say.

Yes it is. So is brouhaha. Both are applicable.

Another fun one is hullabaloo.

03-05-2008, 07:53 PM	#1
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	Hoopla aside It's looking like the delegate haul from yesterday was 187 Hillary, 183 Obama. In order to remain viable, Senator Clinton needed to make significant gains on Obama's 100 delegate lead. With the three state win, she says her campaign has "turned the corner," but does anyone really believe a four delegate win is enough to turn the tide? Obama had projected a month ago that he would lose both Texas and Ohio by greater margins and still head to the convention with a 100 delegate lead. He's currently well ahead of his projected timeline in garnering delegates. (He had anticipated a 60 delegate lead at this point.) Long-term victory for Hillary is implausible at best. I feel like it would have been better for her if she'd been put out of her misery yesterday, once and for all. On the other hand, if you hate the Democrats, and want to watch them make a muddled mess of themselves, things couldn't be working out better.

03-05-2008, 07:58 PM	#2
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I do enjoy watching the battle between bad and worse. Very fun stuff. I disagree about it being best for Mrs. Clinton to lose now and end her run. I want to see the look on her entitled face when she can't have what she thinks is hers. And to watch Bill fret about it will be very amusing as well. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

03-05-2008, 08:04 PM	#3
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	Didn't you hear Hillary yesterday? Bill didn't get the needed delegates until June! No need to rush. This is great theatre. Michigan and Florida loom large out there. Let's take this thing all the way to Denver. By then John Lewis may be ready to flip back to Hillary. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

03-05-2008, 08:38 PM	#9
YOhio AKA SeattleNewt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,055	Hoopla is a great word, alot of fun to say.