No terrorist attacks on American soil since Sept 2001

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

I know that over the years we have heard many times about attacks that have been thwarted. We have also heard from the left that our presence in the Middle East has made the likelihood of attack dramatically higher, and they are right about this. I don't get the sense that Homeland Security the FBI and the CIA have been sitting around for the last seven years saying, geeze, thanks for the bigger budget but there just isn't really that much for us to do.

The argument you are making is like saying, you know I'm not really aware of anyone having tried to break into my house so I really got screwed when they convinced me to buy locks for the doors.

As for Obama, if he continues polices that are calculated to keep us safe, then he is entitled for credit when we remain safe. I don't think that you can credit a president too much or blame him much for anything at the end of his first month, but at the end of the first 6 months is a different story. I guess I'm just not sure how you are developing the notion that there just hasn't really been any true threat we have been combating domestically. I know that my friends in federal law enforcement tell me otherwise.

I can see your confusion with my inartful nature.

let me clarify...I am not saying W has done nothing to keep our country safe.

I am saying that, when compared to what all our other presidents have done, I dont think he has accomplished anything extraordinary that would merit special praise.

Just because he formed a cabinet position for Homeland Security doesnt mean Al Qaeda was ready to attack us again.

Your example of door locks....I can easily say that just because you put locks on your doors doesn't mean that someone was going to break into your house. I do not deny that having locks on your door provides a measure of comfort, though.

Kind of like all the gun nuts who have a gun next to their bed to protect their family from a non-existant attacker who, statistically speaking, will never come.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Kind of like all the gun nuts who have a gun next to their bed to protect their family from a non-existant attacker who, statistically speaking, will never come.

Says the rich white guy who wears vaseline-lined gloves.

Unfortunately, for some neighborhoods, crime, robbery and assault are common occurrences.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by BYU71

I may be old school. I have always thought growing up and have never changed my mind that the best way to keep someone from bothering you is to have them scared as hades of you and what you might do.

Now, I will agree if you have folks who don't worry about dieing, that attitude might be useless. Of course I don't know how you deal with people who don't worry about dieing.

Again, 71, I agree. And I think that this has generally been our posture in the world..."Mess with best, die like the rest." I am fine with that.

Bush bombing Iraq probably scared people. Capturing Saddam impressed everyone.

Bush wiretapping phones and asking Tom Ridge to head up Homeland Security probably scared nobody.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I can see your confusion with my inartful nature.

let me clarify...I am not saying W has done nothing to keep our country safe.

I am saying that, when compared to what all our other presidents have done, I dont think he has accomplished anything extraordinary that would merit special praise.

Just because he formed a cabinet position for Homeland Security doesnt mean Al Qaeda was ready to attack us again.

Your example of door locks....I can easily say that just because you put locks on your doors doesn't mean that someone was going to break into your house. I do not deny that having locks on your door provides a measure of comfort, though.

Kind of like all the gun nuts who have a gun next to their bed to protect their family from a non-existant attacker who, statistically speaking, will never come.

I'm not confused, I do understand what you are saying. I just don't know what evidence leads you to that conclusion.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I can see your confusion with my inartful nature.

let me clarify...I am not saying W has done nothing to keep our country safe.

I am saying that, when compared to what all our other presidents have done, I dont think he has accomplished anything extraordinary that would merit special praise.

Just because he formed a cabinet position for Homeland Security doesnt mean Al Qaeda was ready to attack us again.

Your example of door locks....I can easily say that just because you put locks on your doors doesn't mean that someone was going to break into your house. I do not deny that having locks on your door provides a measure of comfort, though.

Kind of like all the gun nuts who have a gun next to their bed to protect their family from a non-existant attacker who, statistically speaking, will never come.

Do you buy into anyone's argument that terrorist governments who sponsor terror might be nervous about the kind of reaction they would get from a Bush if we got attacked by terrorists, even if they weren't their terrorists.

I guess to buy that argument though you would also have to think the terrorists paid attention to what the state sponsors of terrorists thought.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Says the rich white guy who wears vaseline-lined gloves.

Unfortunately, for some neighborhoods, crime, robbery and assault are common occurrences.

The truth is, I am pretty statistically unlikely to die before my kids are out of the house. I think I'm going to go cancel my life insurance.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Says the rich white guy who wears vaseline-lined gloves.

Unfortunately, for some neighborhoods, crime, robbery and assault are common occurrences.

How many times have you had to use your gun to protect your family....errrrrr.....and your property, Senor Castle Doctrine?

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

The truth is, I am pretty statistically unlikely to die before my kids are out of the house. I think I'm going to go cancel my life insurance.

Why? Doesnt having life insurance protect you from death?

tihs is an easy game to play, so keep them coming.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

How many times have you had to use your gun to protect your family....errrrrr.....and your property, Senor Castle Doctrine?

Have you had to use your life insurance policy yet? Why keep paying premiums?

P.S. I don't own a gun, but I do lock my doors.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by BYU71

Do you buy into anyone's argument that terrorist governments who sponsor terror might be nervous about the kind of reaction they would get from a Bush if we got attacked by terrorists, even if they weren't their terrorists.

I guess to buy that argument though you would also have to think the terrorists paid attention to what the state sponsors of terrorists thought.

NOt really.

All the 9/11 attackers were Saudis.

We invaded Afghanistan. Then, when we couldn't get Osama, we went into Iraq.

When are we going to invade Saudi Arabia? They are probably terrified of us.