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exUte · 04-23-2008, 02:14 PM

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695272746,00.html

The state of Texas wants to monitor their prayers? And they want the LDS members to do so?

Question: they took away their cell phones because the FLDS were sending text pictures of their living conditions. But the reasoning was the government was afraid of inappropriate communication? Guys like UtahDan believe that story line.

Interestingly enough, right after that, they moved the group into better, more spacious living conditions. Duh!

I think UtahDan and the like will be eating crow at the end of this ordeal, not those who value civil liberties and the constitution.

Based on this reasoning, shouldn't we be monitoring prayers that occur in Mosques in the US to make sure they aren't planning any terrorist attacks. Give me the phone number of Homeland Security so I can call in anonymously and claim they are planning another attack on the US and I am fearful of what I heard in the Mosque.

Indy Coug · 04-23-2008, 02:18 PM

The fundamental problem here is that they aren't gay and black.

DrumNFeather · 04-23-2008, 02:19 PM

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Based on this reasoning, shouldn't we be monitoring prayers that occur in Mosques in the US to make sure they aren't planning any terrorist attacks. Give me the phone number of Homeland Security so I can call in anonymously and claim they are planning another attack on the US and I am fearful of what I heard in the Mosque.

Who says we're not?

exUte · 04-23-2008, 02:23 PM

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Who says we're not?

it would be too risky if the liberals found out.

Spaz · 04-23-2008, 02:43 PM

Old news. This was discussed in another thread.

They want to be able to do two things:

1. Ensure no abuse occurs during the "prayer time", and
2. Ensure no coaching occurs that may disrupt their ability to sort the guilty from the innocent.

Both seem reasonable to me. The judge, in fact, was looking for a compromise to allow the FLDS their right to prayer while still ensuring neither of the enumerated issues occurs.

exUte · 04-23-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaz

Old news. This was discussed in another thread.

They want to be able to do two things:

1. Ensure no abuse occurs during the "prayer time", and
2. Ensure no coaching occurs that may disrupt their ability to sort the guilty from the innocent.

Both seem reasonable to me. The judge, in fact, was looking for a compromise to allow the FLDS their right to prayer while still ensuring neither of the enumerated issues occurs.

What evidence did they have that the all the mothers/fathers were guilty of anything?

"Let's round them up and see what evidence we can find that justifies what we did".

Spaz · 04-23-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by exUte

What evidence did they have that the all the mothers/fathers were guilty of anything?

"Let's round them up and see what evidence we can find that justifies what we did".

Again, you're assuming they have no evidence. And, in truth, the fact that they've identified several evidences in general, and you are ignoring those evidences, indicates your current state of 'dumb-ass-titudinous.'

EDIT: In fairness, I wasn't very effective in my wording, and implied an impropriety that is obviously easy to hang your argument on, but which doesn't necessarily exist.

Spaz · 04-23-2008, 03:18 PM

Incidentally, in case you haven't figured this out yet, in a forum set up like this one, it's less effective to put part of your post in the title line.

exUte · 04-23-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaz

Again, you're assuming they have no evidence. And, in truth, the fact that they've identified several evidences in general, and you are ignoring those evidences, indicates your current state of 'dumb-ass-titudinous.'

EDIT: In fairness, I wasn't very effective in my wording, and implied an impropriety that is obviously easy to hang your argument on, but which doesn't necessarily exist.

children and their parents? I must have missed that. I've always maintained that they should go after any perpetrators they have evidence on. You say go after them all.

Based on your philosophy, would you have been part of the Missourians driving out the Mormons? After all they may have had 'several evidences in general'.

exUte · 04-23-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaz

Incidentally, in case you haven't figured this out yet, in a forum set up like this one, it's less effective to put part of your post in the title line.

if all titles simply read "FLDS"?

You mean like this: http://www.cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18736

04-23-2008, 02:14 PM	#1
exUte Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,326	When you thought it couldn't get worse..... http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695272746,00.html The state of Texas wants to monitor their prayers? And they want the LDS members to do so? Question: they took away their cell phones because the FLDS were sending text pictures of their living conditions. But the reasoning was the government was afraid of inappropriate communication? Guys like UtahDan believe that story line. Interestingly enough, right after that, they moved the group into better, more spacious living conditions. Duh! I think UtahDan and the like will be eating crow at the end of this ordeal, not those who value civil liberties and the constitution. Based on this reasoning, shouldn't we be monitoring prayers that occur in Mosques in the US to make sure they aren't planning any terrorist attacks. Give me the phone number of Homeland Security so I can call in anonymously and claim they are planning another attack on the US and I am fearful of what I heard in the Mosque. Last edited by exUte; 04-23-2008 at 02:17 PM.

04-23-2008, 02:43 PM	#5
Spaz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,371	Old news. This was discussed in another thread. They want to be able to do two things: 1. Ensure no abuse occurs during the "prayer time", and 2. Ensure no coaching occurs that may disrupt their ability to sort the guilty from the innocent. Both seem reasonable to me. The judge, in fact, was looking for a compromise to allow the FLDS their right to prayer while still ensuring neither of the enumerated issues occurs. __________________ "My days of not respecting you are certainly coming to a middle." -Malcolm Reynolds "It doesn't mean that if we lose a game or when we lose a game people won't then jump on and say the quest is over. Because they will. But they've missed the point." -Bronco Mendenhall on "The Quest"

04-23-2008, 03:18 PM	#8
Spaz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,371	Incidentally, in case you haven't figured this out yet, in a forum set up like this one, it's less effective to put part of your post in the title line. __________________ "My days of not respecting you are certainly coming to a middle." -Malcolm Reynolds "It doesn't mean that if we lose a game or when we lose a game people won't then jump on and say the quest is over. Because they will. But they've missed the point." -Bronco Mendenhall on "The Quest"

04-23-2008, 02:18 PM	#2
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	The fundamental problem here is that they aren't gay and black.