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Old 05-15-2008, 05:29 PM   #1
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Mark Steyn breaks down the Republican Party's problems very nicely in this post:

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1) A small number who are disgusted with the GOP and say this Bob Barr/Ron Paul/Whoever chap is going to get their vote.

2) A small number who are disgusted with the GOP and plan on sitting on their hands this November.

3) A much bigger number who are disgusted with the GOP but say it's a waste of time flirting with Barr or flouncing off in a huff because it's going to be Obama or McCain in the Oval Office so we have to vote for McCain faute de mieux.*

So I meet Republicans for Barr, Republicans for Staying Home, and Republicans for Voting McCain With An Industrial-Strength Clothespin. But I can't remember the last time I had a conversation with anyone who likes the Republican Party. And one can't but feel this bodes ill for November. A McCain victory with Democrat gains in Congress would be an invitation to a one-term "maverick" president to go on an almighty bipartisan binge.
I would actually laugh at this, if it weren't so sad. I'm somewhere on the fence between groups 2 and 3. I cannot abide the idea of a McCain presidency, but putting the Messiah into office turns my stomach even more.

Wherefore art thou, conservatism?

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I hear you Tex. The GOP has no conservative leadership. Since I'm in Utah and I don't have to worry about a Democrat win, I'll probably vote third party.
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Mark Steyn breaks down the Republican Party's problems very nicely in this post:



I would actually laugh at this, if it weren't so sad. I'm somewhere on the fence between groups 2 and 3. I cannot abide the idea of a McCain presidency, but putting the Messiah into office turns my stomach even more.

Wherefore art thou, conservatism?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...VlMTdiNmFhMGE=
As you sow, so shall you reap.

Of course, I will have to eat this statement sooner or later.
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It's been all downhill since Newt Gingrich let things go to his head.
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It's been all downhill since Newt Gingrich let things go to his head.
So that's why his head is so huge.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:20 PM   #6
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As you sow, so shall you reap.

Of course, I will have to eat this statement sooner or later.
Politics goes in cycles. We thought the world was ending after Richard Nixon, but then the Dems gave us Jimmy Carter. This too shall pass.

I just wish it were over already.
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. The dems who are getting elected to the Senate and House are more conservative. Perhaps the repubs running for Senate and House will become less conservative in order to win.

Eventually maybe we can get the Presidential candidates to do the same and we can move the fringe elements of both parties back to the sidelines just bitching and moaning, but not doing any harm.
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Fortunately for the Republicans, they are running against the Democrats.
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. The dems who are getting elected to the Senate and House are more conservative. Perhaps the repubs running for Senate and House will become less conservative in order to win.

Eventually maybe we can get the Presidential candidates to do the same and we can move the fringe elements of both parties back to the sidelines just bitching and moaning, but not doing any harm.
Take your moderate, bi-partisan clap-trap and shove it hippie.
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McCain was talking "green" last Friday and most likely turned off a bunch of republicans. Yesterday he throws out the year 2013 for being done in Iraq and I'm sure lost some more republicans who are tired of the money being spent over there. The more this guy speaks the more people he turns off. Send him to hide Arizona and keep his pie hole shut and he might win but the way he is going I'm afraid he's screwed.
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