Hillary for President

[Frank Ryan]

Originally Posted by Archaea

You're asking for transitions which would require large studies, which frankly I've lost track of. In the 80s I studied the stuff all the time, and followed a bunch of Friedman type economic journals.

The biggest entitlements are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the like. Massive restructuring is in order. The military could always use a lookover, but with an eye to keeping readiness. In theory, it can be done, while retaining necessary assistance. It's just that Social Security is a joke and the other assistance programs are badly mismanaged.

One of the largest mismanagments is the size of federal and state governments. Civil service is a joke.

However, it is politically impossible, we're becoming more and more like the French, as we expect government to give us everything and to solve all problems. The victim mentality of Democrats is sickening and damaging to the economic welfare of our country.

so you are not in favor of a wholesale axing of welfare programs?

the dems aren't the only ones playing victim cards

conservatives are constantly whining about how overburdened the super-rich are

that gets old as well.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Mastershake

so you are not in favor of a wholesale axing of welfare programs?

the dems aren't the only ones playing victim cards

conservatives are constantly whining about how overburdened the super-rich are

that gets old as well.

Stop with the hyperbole.

Show me one statement where Republicans state, "The SuperRich are overburdened."

You will see references to middle class, the need for capital investment and for open markets, but no where will you see the kind of absurd argument you just made.

The Dems play to a populist rhetoric because it sells votes, plain and simple. To the extent Reps can gain resonance within the general populace, they do so by appealing to the "middle class". Why? Almost everybody considers himself middle class, even well-paid professionals see themselves as "middle class".

Republican leadership does cut deals for large conglomerations since some of their leadership comes from there and because they receive funding.

The Dems do as well, but are able to dupe the public into believing that they do not.

I challenge you to show me where Republicans ever bemoan burdens upon the SuperRich.

[Frank Ryan]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Stop with the hyperbole.

Show me one statement where Republicans state, "The SuperRich are overburdened."

You will see references to middle class, the need for capital investment and for open markets, but no where will you see the kind of absurd argument you just made.

The Dems play to a populist rhetoric because it sells votes, plain and simple. To the extent Reps can gain resonance within the general populace, they do so by appealing to the "middle class". Why? Almost everybody considers himself middle class, even well-paid professionals see themselves as "middle class".

Republican leadership does cut deals for large conglomerations since some of their leadership comes from there and because they receive funding.

The Dems do as well, but are able to dupe the public into believing that they do not.

I challenge you to show me where Republicans ever bemoan burdens upon the SuperRich.

ok, but first find me a quote where democrats tell voters "you are all victims"

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Mastershake

ok, but first find me a quote where democrats tell voters "you are all victims"

IOW, you overstated your case. You know I could find scare messages.

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Hey the French will soon have a woman President, so why can't we? And with Tony Blair stepping down next month (a hunch), great* changes are afoot.

Well I got one out of two right, anyway.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Stop with the hyperbole.

Show me one statement where Republicans state, "The SuperRich are overburdened."

...

I challenge you to show me where Republicans ever bemoan burdens upon the SuperRich.

Rush Limbaugh: "Stop punishing achievement."

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

Rush Limbaugh: "Stop punishing achievement."

Archaea was talking about politicians, not loud mouthed radio hosts.

[Insensitive PAP]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

Just for clarification:

I am not a Democrat. I just think Hillary is better than the rest of the candidates. Mostly because I think that she is the exact opposite of George Bush. I do have a fear that she will keep all the extra presidential powers to promote her socialist agenda. I would like to see a Libertarian minded President that would work to re-balance the branches of government. I just don't see one in the race. Let's get government the hell out of our lives and churches the hell out of government (and vice versa). Let's protect the rights of all people, not just the ones we agree with.

Maybe there should be a law limiting the number of laws we can have. Kind of like the rule at my house that when you buy something, you have to donate or throw something out.

to advocate voting for someone than to say they are the opposite of someone else.

I do find it interesting that people describe George W. Bush as the biggest idiot ever to hold the office, yet still esteem him as a facist mastermind.

No reasonable person thinks George Bush is some type of facist dictator. No reasonable person believes the US would ever allow such a person to remain in power. Once George Bush tries to undo term limits, I'll start to worry.

[Archaea]

What redeeming characteristic does Hillary possess for a Republican?

Does she have a fiscal track record that inspires you?

Does she have foreign policy track record that inspires you?

What could she do to help the economy?

What impact would a socialized styled health care have upon those already with insurance?

Although we don't need a president who is beholden to religious voters, what benefit is it to have one manifestly hostile to religion?

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Archaea

What redeeming characteristic does Hillary possess for a Republican?

Does she have a fiscal track record that inspires you?

Does she have foreign policy track record that inspires you?

What could she do to help the economy?

What impact would a socialized styled health care have upon those already with insurance?

Although we don't need a president who is beholden to religious voters, what benefit is it to have one manifestly hostile to religion?

It's her charisma and winning personality.