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Old 05-28-2008, 12:49 AM   #1
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Default McClellan savages Bush and the Bush admin

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

It's not that the incompetence and deception depicted is news. What is news is someone on the inside of the Bush circle owning up to it.

Bush makes Carter look like a genius.

Here we are with Bush about to leave:
1. mired in a deadly and costly and unnecessary conflict
2. our standing in the world among democratically-minded people severely diminished
3. huge debt, huge govt spending
4. a recession
5. civil liberties for Americans in the toilet
6. an administration that has advocated, in effect, for the DC gun ban

I could go on and on. When you put a moron in office, and he is surrounded my evil men, well, we know how this story goes...

Obama, at least, seems not to be a moron. He's got that going for him.
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Old 05-28-2008, 02:11 AM   #2
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Guarantees some brisk book sales, doesn't it.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

It's not that the incompetence and deception depicted is news. What is news is someone on the inside of the Bush circle owning up to it.

Bush makes Carter look like a genius.

Here we are with Bush about to leave:
1. mired in a deadly and costly and unnecessary conflict
2. our standing in the world among democratically-minded people severely diminished
3. huge debt, huge govt spending
4. a recession
5. civil liberties for Americans in the toilet
6. an administration that has advocated, in effect, for the DC gun ban

I could go on and on. When you put a moron in office, and he is surrounded my evil men, well, we know how this story goes...

Obama, at least, seems not to be a moron. He's got that going for him.
Still proud of being a Texan, Mike?
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Old 05-28-2008, 02:32 AM   #4
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Still proud of being a Texan, Mike?
Definitely, my Texas pride has taken a hit. Moreso from this FLDS debacle however.

Now the state govt. is arguing that if the children are returned to their parents, the parents MIGHT LEAVE THE STATE.

WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK, WITH NOTHING LEGALLY HOLDING THEM HERE IN TEXAS, AND TEXAS DEMONSTRATING HOW FAIR-MINDED THEY ARE, OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS STUPID STATE!
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:17 AM   #5
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Definitely, my Texas pride has taken a hit. Moreso from this FLDS debacle however.

Now the state govt. is arguing that if the children are returned to their parents, the parents MIGHT LEAVE THE STATE.

WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK, WITH NOTHING LEGALLY HOLDING THEM HERE IN TEXAS, AND TEXAS DEMONSTRATING HOW FAIR-MINDED THEY ARE, OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS STUPID STATE!

Did you hear the latest? One of your legislators (republican, no less) trying to pass a law to get the FLDS to foot the bill for the raid and associated legal costs. I'm sure it will go nowhere, but jeez, what a tool.
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Definitely, my Texas pride has taken a hit. Moreso from this FLDS debacle however.

Now the state govt. is arguing that if the children are returned to their parents, the parents MIGHT LEAVE THE STATE.

WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK, WITH NOTHING LEGALLY HOLDING THEM HERE IN TEXAS, AND TEXAS DEMONSTRATING HOW FAIR-MINDED THEY ARE, OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS STUPID STATE!
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Saw a clip of McClellan on some morning talk show yesterday, and he talked about how disappointed he was by the beltway "permanent campaign culture" and how it needs to change.

This just reaffirms my suspicion that the man is/was incredibly naive about DC. No wonder he's jaded.

And then the Politico is reporting he's intrigued by Obama's message and calls it "similar to Bush's in 2000." LOL.

The man has lost it.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath..._by_Obama.html
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And then the Politico is reporting he's intrigued by Obama's message and calls it "similar to Bush's in 2000." LOL.

The man has lost it.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath..._by_Obama.html
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It's not that the incompetence and deception depicted is news. What is news is someone on the inside of the Bush circle owning up to it.

Bush makes Carter look like a genius.

Here we are with Bush about to leave:
1. mired in a deadly and costly and unnecessary conflict
2. our standing in the world among democratically-minded people severely diminished
3. huge debt, huge govt spending
4. a recession
5. civil liberties for Americans in the toilet
6. an administration that has advocated, in effect, for the DC gun ban

I could go on and on. When you put a moron in office, and he is surrounded my evil men, well, we know how this story goes...

Obama, at least, seems not to be a moron. He's got that going for him.
McClellan's book bothers me on multiple levels. If he disagreed with Bush at the time on the war, he should have said something to Bush. If he learned he had been lied to about war intelligence, he should have said something to the press or to Congress. If he learned Bush was manipulating intelligence, he should have said something to the press or Congress. He didn't.

Either he is a lousy human being just now doing the right thing for the wrong reason, or he is a lousy human being doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. In either event, I don't think McClellan will do so well in history.
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McClellan's book bothers me on multiple levels. If he disagreed with Bush at the time on the war, he should have said something to Bush. If he learned he had been lied to about war intelligence, he should have said something to the press or to Congress. If he learned Bush was manipulating intelligence, he should have said something to the press or Congress. He didn't.

Either he is a lousy human being just now doing the right thing for the wrong reason, or he is a lousy human being doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. In either event, I don't think McClellan will do so well in history.
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