01-20-2007, 01:58 AM | #1 |
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about Turkey and EU
read the last part of this article, and then try to imagine why the EU would want Turkey.
It's because Europe is not so different actually. They don't really believe in freedom either. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...ink/index.html |
01-20-2007, 03:29 AM | #2 |
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It's a shame this happened and I don't want to be disrespectful, but dangit, I couldn't help but chuckle more and more each time I read his name in that article.
RIP, Dink.
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Your comment that Europe doesn't believe in freedom doesn't deserve a reply. I'll tell you this, Europe by and large has a low regard for religion, and this illustrates why. Take religion away from liberal democratic society that is essentially a 230 year old phenomenon and this is what religion becomes--a killer of dissidents. Do you know of any exceptions in history?
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I disagree. If society were to follow the counsel of the 10 commandments, specifically 5-10, societies' ills would be solved.
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IMO, bringing Turkey into the EU would be a major step toward bridging the gap between the Western and Islamic worlds. Sadly, I expect the Europeans to miss the opportunity. They like to talk a big game, as long as someone else is playing.
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01-22-2007, 08:05 PM | #6 |
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Freedom of Speech is not the same in Europe. Not even close.
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You also implied that Europe abridges civil liberties in the same way Turkey does. Not at all. If anything Europe to a fault tries to legislate against lies. I know that would complicate your style.
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I guess I don't understand how Western Europe could look to Turkey as relief from its demographic troubles. There is no unified EU social security system, so relief could only come via Turkish immigration to specific countries. If its young foreign workers Western Europe needs to solve the future problems brought on my its aging population, it doesn't need to bring in Turkey to the EU. It could simply ease its immigration laws and they would come flooding in from all over.
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