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MikeWaters · 01-15-2008, 02:09 PM

to dictate what happens in Detroit. He wants the govt. to come in and partner with and help Detroit get back on its feet.

Is this what you all call "small govt."?

So many so-called conservatives are willing to give corporate welfare, but they aren't willing to give a hand-up to the middle class.

Archaea · 01-15-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

to dictate what happens in Detroit. He wants the govt. to come in and partner with and help Detroit get back on its feet.

Is this what you all call "small govt."?

So many so-called conservatives are willing to give corporate welfare, but they aren't willing to give a hand-up to the middle class.

He's buying votes. Pandering just like those who want to give a "hand-up to the middle class." Everybody just buys votes through programs.

For the record, I generally oppose corporate welfare though I am concerned where our industries are threatened by other governments partnering with their "private" industries.

Indy Coug · 01-15-2008, 02:15 PM

But it isn't a free market, because foreign countries are using artificial means to prop up their own companies.

MikeWaters · 01-15-2008, 02:34 PM

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But it isn't a free market, because foreign countries are using artificial means to prop up their own companies.

But it isn't a free market, because [the rich] are using means [only they can afford] to prop up their own [wealth].

Under "arguments you will never hear from Indy Coug".

Indy Coug · 01-15-2008, 02:38 PM

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But it isn't a free market, because [the rich] are using means [only they can afford] to prop up their own [wealth].

Under "arguments you will never hear from Indy Coug".

You think that's the correct logical extension of my earlier point? Idiot.

MikeWaters · 01-15-2008, 02:41 PM

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You think that's the correct logical extension of my earlier point? Idiot.

I think I made it very clear that you would not believe that the rich have any advantage in this company, leveraged by the govt.

No, none at all. In fact, you are busy right now, gathering the evidence to show me the opposite is true, I'm sure.

Tex · 01-15-2008, 02:45 PM

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No, none at all. In fact, you are busy right now, gathering the evidence to show me the opposite is true, I'm sure.

You're just jealous.

creekster · 01-15-2008, 02:47 PM

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But it isn't a free market, because [the rich] are using means [only they can afford] to prop up their own [wealth].

Under "arguments you will never hear from Indy Coug".

What do you mean by this? Using amassed capital is certainly part of the market, and it is also true that those with amassed captial have opportunities (or advantages) that those without it do nto have. Is this your point?

MikeWaters · 01-15-2008, 02:53 PM

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What do you mean by this? Using amassed capital is certainly part of the market, and it is also true that those with amassed captial have opportunities (or advantages) that those without it do nto have. Is this your point?

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The results? Buffett says he pays 18 percent of his salary to the IRS while the rest of his staff pays nearly twice that — 33 percent, a lopsided equation that put Buffett in a Robin Hood frame of mind.

"Frankly, an economy where my receptionist pays a lot higher tax rate than, than I do does not strike me as a just economy," he told lawmakers.

Buffet has challenged the elite members of the Forbes 400 list to do their own calculations and compare their tax rate with their receptionists, and then consider his challenge that the rich should pay more.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3869458&page=1

None were willing to come forward and disprove Buffett.

Archaea · 01-15-2008, 02:55 PM

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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3869458&page=1

None were willing to come forward and disprove Buffett.

Of course, I don't have to worry about that, so I don't know how that works, unless he's using a lot of capital gains.

What irks me is the idea that wealthy starts at 200K, which simply isn't true.

If you believe wealthy starts in Buffett's ozone, then I might agree with you.

01-15-2008, 02:09 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Interesting that Mitt doesn't want the free market to dictate what happens in Detroit. He wants the govt. to come in and partner with and help Detroit get back on its feet. Is this what you all call "small govt."? So many so-called conservatives are willing to give corporate welfare, but they aren't willing to give a hand-up to the middle class.

01-15-2008, 02:15 PM	#3
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	But it isn't a free market, because foreign countries are using artificial means to prop up their own companies.