Ute's all century team

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Yes, they were fine players but mostly they won because they were such excellent people.

They were living right on and off the court and, boom, magic happened.

[cougjunkie]

Michael Vranes that played at BYU would have been a star if he didnt blow out his ankle that ended his career.

Also I think Alex Jensen is overrated and Tom Chambers was awesome in NBA Jam.

[mpfunk]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Do you know who wrote that Wiki article? JazzyUte. That's all I'll say about that.

Again, he was First Team AP All-American, one of the five best players in the country his junior year. And Jensen makes the team and he doesn't. Jensen was never even the best player in the MWC or his team. It's ridiculous.

Alex Jensen was MWC player of the year as a senior, so you are wrong. Plus, I haven't seen anyone rate Jensen ahead of Miller. Miller is the best Ute of all time.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by mpfunk

Alex Jensen was MWC player of the year as a senior, so you are wrong.

Yeah. Take that, Sucka.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by mpfunk

Alex Jensen was MWC player of the year as a senior, so you are wrong. Plus, I haven't seen anyone rate Jensen ahead of Miller. Miller is the best Ute of all time.

Had to be a down year for the MWC. He was a very good player, but was he rated one of the five best in the country, like Burden was by the AP?

A few years back there was a poll on Utefans and Jensen beat Miller by a landslide.

[creekster]

Here's the problem with talking about Jensen and Burden. Jensen would not have thrived in the game as it was played when Burden was playing. It was a different game, the Utes ran a very different offense. It is hard to compare them. I think Jensen was a very, very solid player but Burden was a great player and would have toasted Jensen back then. Under today's style of game, Burden would not be likely to score 30 a game, but he still would have done pretty well. To some degree all these types of discussions are "my memories are better than your memories" so it's all good.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by creekster

Here's the problem with talking about Jensen and Burden. Jensen would not have thrived in the game as it was played when Burden was playing. It was a different game, the Utes ran a very different offense. It is hard to compare them. I think Jensen was a very, very solid player but Burden was a great player and would have toasted Jensen back then. Under today's style of game, Burden would not be likely to score 30 a game, but he still would have done pretty well. To some degree all these types of discussions are "my memories are better than your memories" so it's all good.

Pimm's motion offense was a lot like Majerus' motion offense. They weren't the Runnin' Utes under Pimm either. Look, it's hard enough for a WAC/MWC player to even get recognized. He needs to be extraordinaryily good to be first team AA.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Pimm's motion offense was a lot like Majerus' motion offense. They weren't the Runnin' Utes under Pimm either. Look, it's hard enough for a WAC/MWC player to even get recognized. He needs to be extraordinaryily good to be first team AA.

You think the game was the same back then? If you teleported refs from 1975 to a march madness game in 2008 they would call traveling about 1/2 of every possession and would call fouls on almost every possession for what is now accepted as hard nosed alex jensen style defense. Do you disagree?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by creekster

You think the game was the same back then? If you teleported refs from 1975 to a march madness game in 2008 they would call traveling about 1/2 of every possession and would call fouls on almost every possession for what is now accepted as hard nosed alex jensen style defense. Do you disagree?

I think the more wide open game now including the shot clock, 3 point shots and dunk, and less nitpicking about traveling and fouls would be more suitable to Burden's style. Jensen would have thrived in 1975 even more than in 2000. I bet half of Burden's shots were well outside the 3. He had a beautiful outside shot, about the best I've ever seen.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I think the more wide open game now including the shot clock, 3 point shots and dunk, and less nitpicking about traveling and fouls would be more suitable to Burden's style. Jensen would have thrived in 1975 even more than in 2000. I bet half of Burden's shots were well outside the 3. He had a beautiful outside shot, about the best I've ever seen.

SOmetimes I just don't think I even know who you are anymore.

More wide open? Ticky had a great shot but they would have packed him down hard. If things are so wide open now, why do you think it is that we don't see very many 30 point averages anymore? We reach the same conclusion about Ticky but man we get there differently. OF course, I was never manager of a team so maybe I should defer (said only half in jest).