I wonder how this will go over on CB...

[Cali Coug]

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=3452107

[woot]

That's good stuff. I doubt that'll help your glowing reputation over there though.

[myboynoah]

You are right about Evangelicals willing to vote for Romney. That has been a surprise.

You conveniently leave out Huck's religious baiting concerning Mitt's Mormonism, explaining LDS unhappiness with him. Had Mitt done a similar thing, I think the Evangelical response would be similar.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

You conveniently leave out Huck's religious baiting concerning Mitt's Mormonism, explaining LDS unhappiness with him. Had Mitt done a similar thing, I think the Evangelical response would be similar.

Or the McCain's decrying of federal funding going toward the SLC Olympics.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Or the McCain's decrying of federal funding going toward the SLC Olympics.

I am sure that was the top issue on everyone's mind.

[SeattleUte]

For Mormons it's all about supporting the tribe. They're the last ones to justly accuse of religious bigotry. The hate Huckabee because he's an evangelical. It's the same quality of antipathy Evangelicals have for Mormons. It's truly a holy war.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

For Mormons it's all about supporting the tribe. They're the last ones to justly accuse of religious bigotry. The hate Huckabee because he's an evangelical. It's the same quality of antipathy Evangelicals have for Mormons. It's truly a holy war.

If that is true (and I think it is) then I think you have to concede that LDS hate for Huck is legitimate, right? If I have understood you, you have said it is right to make judgments based on religion because religion legitimately tells us a lot about a person. So since we know that a lot of evangelicals hate, and if not hate certainly dislike, LDS, it is fair to deduce that we we don't want a president who hates or dislikes us.

Isn't the result of your position that neither how LDS feel nor how evangelicals feels really is bigotry? We just see each other clearly and don't like one another for articulable reasons.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

For Mormons it's all about supporting the tribe. They're the last ones to justly accuse of religious bigotry. The hate Huckabee because he's an evangelical. It's the same quality of antipathy Evangelicals have for Mormons. It's truly a holy war.

Merely being an Evangelical is not a status offense amongst Mormons. Evangelicals who have held political office, such as John Ashcroft and George W. Bush, can be quite popular in Utah. Few Mormons hate Huckabee just because he's an Evangelical. Most hate him because he's a religion-baiting asshole.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

If that is true (and I think it is) then I think you have to concede that LDS hate for Huck is legitimate, right? If I have understood you, you have said it is right to make judgments based on religion because religion legitimately tells us a lot about a person. So since we know that a lot of evangelicals hate, and if not hate certainly dislike, LDS, it is fair to deduce that we we don't want a president who hates or dislikes us.

Isn't the result of your position that neither how LDS feel nor how evangelicals feels really is bigotry? We just see each other clearly and don't like one another for articulable reasons.

I think I agree with this.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Merely being an Evangelical is not a status offense amongst Mormons. Evangelicals who have held political office, such as John Ashcroft and George W. Bush, can be quite popular in Utah. Few Mormons hate Huckabee just because he's an Evangelical. Most hate him because he's a religion-baiting asshole.

The ones you list haven't run qua Evangelicals per se. Bush, for example, is not necessarily as associated with any denomination as Romney or Huckabee. His father was originally a Protestant mainliner. They talk the God talk in a way that's ecumenical and pleasing to Mornons. Huckabee and Romney respectively ran as an Evangelical and a Mormon.

Now, before you remonstrate, let me say that Romney embraced the "Romney the Mormon candidate" label the day he decided to pander to the Evangelicals. He made religion an issue because basically abortion, gay marriage, and anit-immigration is all they care about. He only compounded this with his religion speech. He could have run like McCain and made religion a non-issue by being moderate on social issues like he did in Massachusettes. In that case his religion would have been a non-issue, and the Evangelicals would still have hated him like they do anyway.