My ride on Sat.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Nope. I already said it was a 7mph rolling average.

Was this with your child?

I mean a seven mph rolling average is difficult to achieve, unless you're climbing something in excess of seven percent gradient.

This is one of those mind tricks.

If you were riding with scouts, then I understand. The slowest fifty miler I ever experienced was during my son's last ride on his cycling merit badge. It was mental torture to ride that slowly but fun doing it with him.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Was this with your child?

I mean a seven mph rolling average is difficult to achieve, unless you're climbing something in excess of seven percent gradient.

This is one of those mind tricks.

If you were riding with scouts, then I understand. The slowest fifty miler I ever experienced was during my son's last ride on his cycling merit badge. It was mental torture to ride that slowly but fun doing it with him.

ding, ding. winner.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

ding, ding. winner.

That's much slower than even my son. Wow. Of course your terrain could have been more severe.

We did the fifty in about four and one hours, but it was on flat terrain. He was dead tired and 11, maybe 12.

7 mph? jeez, unless they're on clunkers then maybe that explains it.

[MikeWaters]

perfectly flat, little to no wind, mild temperatures.

one of the kids was on his bmx. another is so uncoordinated that he crashed his bike twice, into a car, in the parking lot. One's bike weighed at least 35 lb. The other kid did ok, and the one on the really heavy bike did ok too (except he mysteriously fell off and skinned his knee).

[creekster]

Hey scoutmaster: does my son's ride on the triple for 65 miles count as the 50 miler? HE pedaled the whole way. What do you think?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by creekster

Hey scoutmaster: does my son's ride on the triple for 65 miles count as the 50 miler? HE pedaled the whole way. What do you think?

Maybe if he was riding in the front.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Maybe if he was riding in the front.

Serously? So if he is in back (as he was) you don't think it counts? Why not? What if he was blind? Just curious.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by creekster

Serously? So if he is in back (as he was) you don't think it counts? Why not? What if he was blind? Just curious.

Because controlling the bike (with handle bars and brakes) IS the safety aspect of riding. Any monkey can just pedal and stay on.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Because controlling the bike (with handle bars and brakes) IS the safety aspect of riding. Any monkey can just pedal and stay on.

So the 50 miler is about teaching safety? I thought it was about endurance. Oh well.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by creekster

So the 50 miler is about teaching safety? I thought it was about endurance. Oh well.

it's about being a bike rider. Riding on the back of a bike is not how you become a bike rider. Bike handling skills, safety, decision making, riding in groups, etc.