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non sequitur · 03-08-2008, 09:57 PM

I heard today that he was coming home -- I was quickly assured, though, that it was for medical reasons and was "honorable". It turns out he is suffering from depression. Is this becoming an epidemic? When I was a missionary we didn't have that out, and my mission was pretty depressing. I don't think anyone goes through a two year mission without being depressed every now and again. I thought today's kids were all supposed to be valiant warriors in the pre-existence. How come they're so soft now?

Archaea · 03-08-2008, 10:19 PM

It does seem strange that so many young people can be diagnosed to be clinically depressed. In our day, that diagnosis was uncommon, but it seems almost commonplace.

My service occurred in a country where one taught almost no investigators, experienced virtually no baptisms, and walked around in cold, wet weather all day long. Yes, there were depressing days, but you toughed that aspect out. Kids today can be a bit wimpy.

SeattleUte · 03-08-2008, 10:25 PM

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I heard today that he was coming home -- I was quickly assured, though, that it was for medical reasons and was "honorable". It turns out he is suffering from depression. Is this becoming an epidemic? When I was a missionary we didn't have that out, and my mission was pretty depressing. I don't think anyone goes through a two year mission without being depressed every now and again. I thought today's kids were all supposed to be valiant warriors in the pre-existence. How come they're so soft now?

Non-seq, Those of us who served in Guayaquil, Ecuador and didn't get depressed have an iron constitution.

non sequitur · 03-08-2008, 10:43 PM

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Non-seq, Those of us who served in Guayaquil, Ecuador and didn't get depressed have an iron constitution.

Constant 80% humidity with 90 degree heat. No hot water. Raw sewage running down the street. Got robbed 3 times. It was paradise.

SteelBlue · 03-08-2008, 11:01 PM

We lost a couple during my mission. They never called it depression back then though. They always referred to it as a "chemical imbalance".

Tex · 03-09-2008, 12:55 AM

The real question is, is someone born depressed, or is it a choice?

danimal · 03-09-2008, 12:59 AM

My guess is that while there may be some wimps who want to go home, there's enough shame involved in returning that those who do are legit. Missions are also the age that many psychiatric disorders first appear. Take it easy on people, depression isn't a sign of moral weakness.

malapert · 03-09-2008, 01:46 AM

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My guess is that while there may be some wimps who want to go home, there's enough shame involved in returning that those who do are legit. Missions are also the age that many psychiatric disorders first appear. Take it easy on people, depression isn't a sign of moral weakness.

BS, these are kids who grew up being given trophies for "participating" on soccer teams from ages 4 to 12. Didn't matter that they lost every game.

This is the generation whose sense of entitlement comes from being molly coddled their entire lives. Their parents ran to their defense every time an elementary school teacher didn't give them straight "A"s and perfect citizenship marks.

These kids now think they are entitled to a life devoid of pressure, challenge and obstacles. They're soft. They want their mom when the going gets a little tough.

Quit making excuses for them danimal. Let me guess, danimal is under 30 years of age.

danimal · 03-09-2008, 01:54 AM

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BS, these are kids who grew up being given trophies for "participating" on soccer teams from ages 4 to 12. Didn't matter that they lost every game.

This is the generation whose sense of entitlement comes from being molly coddled their entire lives. Their parents ran to their defense every time an elementary school teacher didn't give them straight "A"s and perfect citizenship marks.

These kids now think they are entitled to a life devoid of pressure, challenge and obstacles. They're soft. They want their mom when the going gets a little tough.

Quit making excuses for them danimal. Let me guess, danimal is under 30 years of age.

You really believe that depression is caused by giving trophies to kids who don't win soccer games? You're a regular mental health expert.

Sadly, many people suffer from mental illness and are stigmatized into feeling like crap because of folks like you.

Archaea · 03-09-2008, 01:56 AM

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My guess is that while there may be some wimps who want to go home, there's enough shame involved in returning that those who do are legit. Missions are also the age that many psychiatric disorders first appear. Take it easy on people, depression isn't a sign of moral weakness.

Mental illness is serious, but it appears depression is thrown around loosely to excuse any time somebody feels badly for himself. As malapert stated, many of these are simply, coddled and soft middle class kids who can't hack it.

03-08-2008, 09:57 PM	#1
non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	A family friend has been out on his mission about 4 months... I heard today that he was coming home -- I was quickly assured, though, that it was for medical reasons and was "honorable". It turns out he is suffering from depression. Is this becoming an epidemic? When I was a missionary we didn't have that out, and my mission was pretty depressing. I don't think anyone goes through a two year mission without being depressed every now and again. I thought today's kids were all supposed to be valiant warriors in the pre-existence. How come they're so soft now? __________________ ...You've been under attack for days, there's a soldier down, he's wounded, gangrene's setting in, 'Who's used all the penicillin?' 'Oh, Mark Paxson sir, he's got knob rot off of some tart.'" - Gareth Keenan

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Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	It does seem strange that so many young people can be diagnosed to be clinically depressed. In our day, that diagnosis was uncommon, but it seems almost commonplace. My service occurred in a country where one taught almost no investigators, experienced virtually no baptisms, and walked around in cold, wet weather all day long. Yes, there were depressing days, but you toughed that aspect out. Kids today can be a bit wimpy. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

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Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	The real question is, is someone born depressed, or is it a choice? __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

03-09-2008, 12:59 AM	#7
danimal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Your mom's house Posts: 588	My guess is that while there may be some wimps who want to go home, there's enough shame involved in returning that those who do are legit. Missions are also the age that many psychiatric disorders first appear. Take it easy on people, depression isn't a sign of moral weakness. __________________ Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as a therapist, I have advised a number of couples to explore an open relationship where the couple remains emotionally committed, but free to explore extra-marital encounters. Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people? Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but...but it might work for us.

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SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	We lost a couple during my mission. They never called it depression back then though. They always referred to it as a "chemical imbalance".