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Old 08-08-2007, 02:50 PM   #31
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I know, I was just trying to bring up Canseco.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:25 PM   #32
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I wonder how many times Barry and Sammy have been tested since 04...

You would think a bazillion times.

If Barry juiced, Clemens juiced, A-Rod juiced (who has lost 15 lbs from last year), etc...

The body changes don't shock me as most, take a look at a picture of you at 22 and a picture of you at 35 and see how much bigger most of you are, including the ones who have stayed in shape.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:41 PM   #33
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Look, why not leave Fus alone? You could have done without that cheap shot...
Because he's a dickhead and he's earned it.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:49 PM   #34
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Those of you who don't believe Bonds juicied, PM me. I have some incredible ocean-front property I am looking to get liquidate at amazing prices.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:11 PM   #35
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I wonder how many times Barry and Sammy have been tested since 04...

You would think a bazillion times.

If Barry juiced, Clemens juiced, A-Rod juiced (who has lost 15 lbs from last year), etc...

The body changes don't shock me as most, take a look at a picture of you at 22 and a picture of you at 35 and see how much bigger most of you are, including the ones who have stayed in shape.
How about a better example Miguel Cabrera at 19 when he came in to the league he was 6'4 195 pounds he is now 6'4 265 lbs 4 years later. Yet no one is talking about him juicing, they are saying he just got fat. I am sure his hat size and shoe size have both increased dramatically.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:22 PM   #36
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How about a better example Miguel Cabrera at 19 when he came in to the league he was 6'4 195 pounds he is now 6'4 265 lbs 4 years later. Yet no one is talking about him juicing, they are saying he just got fat. I am sure his hat size and shoe size have both increased dramatically.
So he takes steroids too and is a piece of crap too. Doesn't justify Bonds cheating.

That argument that others are doing it too always makes me chuckle.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:33 PM   #37
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So he takes steroids too and is a piece of crap too. Doesn't justify Bonds cheating.

That argument that others are doing it too always makes me chuckle.
Ignoring the fact that others did it should also lead one to chuckle and baseball fans, writers, and higher ups seem to be doing that.

Oh wait...they nailed Giambi...so its Bonds and Giambi...and nobody else.

The whole process has been a joke.
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Ignoring the fact that others did it should also lead one to chuckle and baseball fans, writers, and higher ups seem to be doing that.

Oh wait...they nailed Giambi...so its Bonds and Giambi...and nobody else.

The whole process has been a joke.
There are tons of dirty players, owners, managers and higher ups who are guilty in this process.

Saying so doesn't and shouldn't detract from the piece of crap that Barry Bonds is.
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Because he's a dickhead and he's earned it.
So because Fus is a dickhead you are willing to make yourself look like one as well?

That makes a lot of sense...
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The only thing consistent with baseball has been scandal. No era in baseball has been free of it. So I think that even people that make the "put the record in context argument" are full of it too.

Barry Bonds was the best player before the juice era. And he was the best during.
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