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MikeWaters · 04-09-2008, 10:44 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3716291.ece

Note the many pro-China Chinese protestors.

Boy this is a massive embarrassment for the Chinese govt. and pro-Communist Chinese, shining a bright light on their human rights abuses.

It used to the that the GOP stood against communism. The GOP places business interests first, so there will be no protest from the GOP about anything China does (as long as isn't tarriffs or currency issues).

I can't decide if it is better to boycott the olympics, or to have all or many of our athletes symbolically protest the Chinese govt. while there (such as black gloves raised in the air, or black arm-bands, or some other public symbol).

TripletDaddy · 04-09-2008, 10:46 PM

It was reported a little bit ago that the Chinese Embassy in SF bussed over some pro-China demonstrators. Pathetic.

The San Francisco leg of this farcical torch relay has been ridiculous.

The IOC needs to stop the international portion of this torch relay because all this coverage is damaging the Olympic brand and generating absolutely NO goodwill.

MikeWaters · 04-09-2008, 10:48 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ics/index.html

It looks like every single House representative except one GOPer voted for this resolution supporting Tibet.

That republican is Ron Paul.

il Padrino Ute · 04-09-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ics/index.html

It looks like every single House representative except one GOPer voted for this resolution supporting Tibet.

That republican is Ron Paul.

It seems that the link in this post of yours above contradicts your comment in this post, eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Note the many pro-China Chinese protestors.

Boy this is a massive embarrassment for the Chinese govt. and pro-Communist Chinese, shining a bright light on their human rights abuses.

It used to the that the GOP stood against communism. The GOP places business interests first, so there will be no protest from the GOP about anything China does (as long as isn't tarriffs or currency issues).

I can't decide if it is better to boycott the olympics, or to have all or many of our athletes symbolically protest the Chinese govt. while there (such as black gloves raised in the air, or black arm-bands, or some other public symbol).

MikeWaters · 04-09-2008, 10:55 PM

Yes, IPU it appears to on its face.

But the rubber does not hit the road in a non-binding resolution.

il Padrino Ute · 04-09-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Yes, IPU it appears to on its face.

But the rubber does not hit the road in a non-binding resolution.

Fair enough.

As for your comment about boycotting the Olympics or having the athletes protest, I'd much rather see the athletes protest in some manner. I have a tough time accepting a punishment for the athletes on the Olympic team because of politics. The athletes haven't done anything but work hard to fulfill a dream of competing.

I say that because I remember thinking it was wrong when Carter called for a boycott of the '80 Olympic games. I think it would be more effective to embarrass the Communist regime on the world stage by seeing the athletes do something like wear a patch of the Tibetan flag.

SteelBlue · 04-09-2008, 11:24 PM

Boycotting the Olympics punishes nobody but athletes who have spent the past 4 years working their butts off.

JohnnyLingo · 04-10-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelBlue

Boycotting the Olympics punishes nobody but athletes who have spent the past 4 years working their butts off.

Exactly. If you really want to help Tibet, messing with the AMERICAN torch bearers doesn't help much.

TripletDaddy · 04-10-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

Exactly. If you really want to help Tibet, messing with the AMERICAN torch bearers doesn't help much.

Which nationality would be the best to mess with if the goal is to help Tibet?

JohnnyLingo · 04-10-2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Which nationality would be the best to mess with if the goal is to help Tibet?

Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick.

The point is that attacking the torch runners (and I disagree with those that did it in Paris) is a meaningless gesture.

04-09-2008, 10:44 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I support the protest of the olympic torch processions http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3716291.ece Note the many pro-China Chinese protestors. Boy this is a massive embarrassment for the Chinese govt. and pro-Communist Chinese, shining a bright light on their human rights abuses. It used to the that the GOP stood against communism. The GOP places business interests first, so there will be no protest from the GOP about anything China does (as long as isn't tarriffs or currency issues). I can't decide if it is better to boycott the olympics, or to have all or many of our athletes symbolically protest the Chinese govt. while there (such as black gloves raised in the air, or black arm-bands, or some other public symbol).

04-09-2008, 10:46 PM	#2
TripletDaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 9,483	It was reported a little bit ago that the Chinese Embassy in SF bussed over some pro-China demonstrators. Pathetic. The San Francisco leg of this farcical torch relay has been ridiculous. The IOC needs to stop the international portion of this torch relay because all this coverage is damaging the Olympic brand and generating absolutely NO goodwill. __________________ Fitter. Happier. More Productive. "Everyone is against me. Everyone is fawning for 3D's attention and defending him." -- SeattleUte

04-09-2008, 10:48 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ics/index.html It looks like every single House representative except one GOPer voted for this resolution supporting Tibet. That republican is Ron Paul.

04-09-2008, 10:55 PM	#5
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Yes, IPU it appears to on its face. But the rubber does not hit the road in a non-binding resolution.

04-09-2008, 11:24 PM	#7
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	Boycotting the Olympics punishes nobody but athletes who have spent the past 4 years working their butts off.