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Old 06-11-2008, 06:50 PM   #11
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IMO, I think pigeon holing players into positions like that is a bit antiquated considering the way the game has evolved. It is almost like now you look at it as having 2 bigs, 2 wings and a ball handler. Yes, there are some teams where the delineation between those buckets is a bit more blurred, but in general it makes more sense than trying to say "I need a 5, 4, 3, 2 and a 1".
I agree for the most part. However, Bynum will generally guard the opponent's 5, or biggest post player. He will play on offense primarily with his back to the basket - I think the triangle actually has a specific role for a center (kind of the anchor of the triangle), and this will be filled by Bynum and will defend the other team's primary post-up player (usually the 5). The huge benefit to Gasol is that he will likely be playing against players that either are smaller or are not as quick as him. He's also less likely to be playing against someone who can overpower him as the "smaller" big. Also, he's much better facing the basket or cutting to the basket, which is more what his role would be in the triangle.

For the wing players, Kobe/Lamar is an upgrade over Kobe/Vlad or Kobe/Walton. Lamar has been playing as one of the bigs, but there are going to be many more mismatches he can exploit when both Bynum and Gasol are on the floor. He's got the quickness to play with smaller players, but if he's being guarded by a wing player, he'll be deadly posting up. Lamar is probably the most versatile player the Lakers have.

I think with Kobe and Lamar on the floor, the other position is really more of a shooter, although Fisher's such a good ballhandler that they tend to use him to drive into the paint. Farmar will thrive if he becomes a very good shooter. I think whether Farmar or Vujacic fills this role more in the absence of Fisher will depend primarily on the defensive matchup.
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Odom at the 3 is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard on this board.
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IMO, I think pigeon holing players into positions like that is a bit antiquated considering the way the game has evolved. It is almost like now you look at it as having 2 bigs, 2 wings and a ball handler. Yes, there are some teams where the delineation between those buckets is a bit more blurred, but in general it makes more sense than trying to say "I need a 5, 4, 3, 2 and a 1".
Obviously, since Kobe has played the 1, 2, and 3 for the Lakers.

magic, a 1, won a game against the celtics playing as a 5

I am just talking about their starting lineup. That will be the lineup.
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You should click on search/advanced search/ and then enter "mikewaters" in the user name field. Search for "all posts by this user."
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Odom has played the 3 for much of his career.
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The problem with Gasol at the 4 is that he will have a much harder matchup on the defensive end because he will be playing against much quicker players. His length will help but I think he is going to get abused a lot next year.
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The problem with Gasol at the 4 is that he will have a much harder matchup on the defensive end because he will be playing against much quicker players. His length will help but I think he is going to get abused a lot next year.
On D? Assuming Bynum can play to form and anchor the paint? I guess I dont see that. Possible, of course.

Also, are Duncan and Boozer getting quicker in the offseason? Who are these lightening fast 4s in the West that he hasnt already matched up against this season?
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On D? Assuming Bynum can play to form and anchor the paint? I guess I dont see that. Possible, of course.

Also, are Duncan and Boozer getting quicker in the offseason? Who are these lightening fast 4s in the West that he hasnt already matched up against this season?
I agree - Pao is a better matchup defensively against athletic 4's than he is against bulky 5's.
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On D? Assuming Bynum can play to form and anchor the paint? I guess I dont see that. Possible, of course.

Also, are Duncan and Boozer getting quicker in the offseason? Who are these lightening fast 4s in the West that he hasnt already matched up against this season?
Are you saying Pau is a good defender now? Because he didnt fare real well against Duncan (22 and 17 in the playoffs). If he moves to the 4, Bynum would most likely guard the 5 and Pau is matched up against players like:

Kevin Garnett
Amare Stoudemire
Dirk Nowitzki
Elton Brand
Chris Bosh
Antawn Jamison
Rasheed Wallace
David West
Marvin Williams
Al Jefferson
Tim Duncan

All of them are matchup nightmares for Gasol.
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