I'm annoyed by cycling and cyclists

[bluegoose]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Nobody's advocating disobeying traffic rules, but the rules don't dictate that one must only occupy six inches on the road.

You should ride to the right as far as possible, and you may occupy the entire lane in a group. Motor vehicles, depending on the state must allow at least five to six feet to the side when passing a cyclist. Some motorists wrongly believe we must ride on the shoulder, which is untrue.

In California, riders are supposed to ride in single file in the absence of an actual "bike lane". In a bike lane, they can occupy the entire width, but even if it is a designated "bike route", they must ride single file. Passing is supposed to be always done on the left if coming from behind, meaning in a paceline, the front guy needs to peel off to the right.

Aside from that, you guys are right about the rest of the law - take as much of the lane as is necessary to feel safe.

And yes, you guys are being a bit harsh on Venkman. A simple key to the side of his car would be sufficient, instead of all this name calling.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by bluegoose

meaning in a paceline, the front guy needs to peel off to the right.

Do you ride that way now? We always peeled off to the left when I rode with you.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by bluegoose

And yes, you guys are being a bit harsh on Venkman. A simple key to the side of his car would be sufficient, instead of all this name calling.

it's an annoyance to him. for us, it's our lives.

[SeattleUte]

What annoys me is I see cyclers all the time making bad decisions and taking reckless action, like weaving in and out of traffic, riding heedless of traffic signals, etc. I'm sure not all the fatalities are cars' fault. Also, when you get stuck on a high rise elevator with one of the courriers you wouldn't believe the stench.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What annoys me is I see cyclers all the time making bad decisions and taking reckless action, like weaving in and out of traffic, riding heedless of traffic signals, etc. I'm sure not all the fatalities are cars' fault. Also, when you get stuck on a high rise elevator with one of the courriers you wouldn't believe the stench.

the courier next to SU thinks, "Gawd, what a pretentious pussy."

I guess that makes you even.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

the courier next to SU thinks, "Gawd, what a pretentious pussy."

I guess that makes you even.

And in addition to "boy does that guy (or gal) stink," I'm thinking, "jeez louise those tattoos are ugly."

[bluegoose]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

Do you ride that way now? We always peeled off to the left when I rode with you.

No we always peel off to the left. I just went back and read the laws not long ago and was surprised at how ridiculous some of them are.