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Old 01-26-2017, 02:19 AM   #1
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Also, which hat would project the most solidarity with my poly brethren? I assume it's one with a tribal motif, but which one?
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Also, which hat would project the most solidarity with my poly brethren? I assume it's one with a tribal motif, but which one?
They're racist.
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They're racist.
It's racist to endorse patterns embraced by a subculture in which BYU is heavily invested?

Is along the lines that is racist for a person of one ethnicity to misappropriate culture of another culture?
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It's racist to endorse patterns embraced by a subculture in which BYU is heavily invested?

Is along the lines that is racist for a person of one ethnicity to misappropriate culture of another culture?
It's a caricature like the Cleveland Indians mascot. Yes, it's also misappropriation. And it's mercenary, and obsequious in a misdirected way. BYU is heavily invested in the culture? For football?
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BYU historically has probably had more poly players than any school but Hawaii.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a poly-themed BYU hat. Esp. if it is poly people buying them.
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BYU historically has probably had more poly players than any school but Hawaii.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a poly-themed BYU hat. Esp. if it is poly people buying them.
I thought you were going to point out he was trolling again, but Polynesian identity and BYU football are inextricably linked.
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I may be getting the blue kahuku Y hat.
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It's a caricature like the Cleveland Indians mascot. Yes, it's also misappropriation. And it's mercenary, and obsequious in a misdirected way. BYU is heavily invested in the culture? For football?
You're trolling.

Let's count the ways the LDS Church is invested in the Polynesian cultures.

First, there is a university in Hawaii which admits Polynesians preferentially.
Second, there are numerous outreaches to the various Polynesian island groups, including scholarships and other fundings.
Third, the LDS Church has built schools and other buildings for the promotion of Polynesian culture. There is a prep school in New Zealand for students of Maori descent.
Fourth, outside of the University of Hawaii, BYU has the most Polynesian players on its team and probably the second most students of Polynesian descent.

Of course, you were aware of these facts and sought to troll.

BYU being interested in and having a deep connection to the Polynesian culture cannot be said to be misappropriating the artwork from one of its cultures.
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You're trolling.

Let's count the ways the LDS Church is invested in the Polynesian cultures.

First, there is a university in Hawaii which admits Polynesians preferentially.
Second, there are numerous outreaches to the various Polynesian island groups, including scholarships and other fundings.
Third, the LDS Church has built schools and other buildings for the promotion of Polynesian culture. There is a prep school in New Zealand for students of Maori descent.
Fourth, outside of the University of Hawaii, BYU has the most Polynesian players on its team and probably the second most students of Polynesian descent.

Of course, you were aware of these facts and sought to troll.

BYU being interested in and having a deep connection to the Polynesian culture cannot be said to be misappropriating the artwork from one of its cultures.

Vai Sikahema said BYU football's culture has a strong Polynesian influence.
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