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09-03-2008, 08:54 PM
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09-03-2008, 08:56 PM
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But I don't understand why would that make someone not want to have that power, to influence what one can? More concretely, how much more would the number of abortions had sunk, had a Republican been in office to sign the Partial-Birth ban in 1995 or 1997? How many more lives saved between then and 2003?
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09-03-2008, 09:16 PM
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Partial birth abortions made up less than 1% of all abortions in 1996. Now, let's say that partial birth abortions had been eliminated so that there was none under any circumstances in 1996. That's at most a 1% reduction. But let's say that the Republican in office also adjusted fiscal policy which affected socio-economic conditions, or changed budget allocation so that there were fewer resources available to health programs; and as a result 2% more women were seeking abortions the following year. There wouldn't have been any lives saved at all. So we can't speculate about alternate histories. What we can do is look at the data that exist, and, as best as I can tell, those data don't give any indication that there's a correlation between the party in power and abortion activity in the U.S. Now I could totally be wrong - Seattle even informs me that I was at least once. But I await any evidence of a correlation. |
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09-03-2008, 09:47 PM
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I'm saying a correlation is not necessary for a person to want their president to advocate and/or legislate their views. Moreover, who says the next president can't buck the trend?
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09-03-2008, 10:50 PM
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From a Dem viewpoint, what is the price at which abortions come? Under what circumstances is the price high? How high is the price? Why is there any price at all?
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09-04-2008, 04:50 AM
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