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SeattleUte · 06-09-2006, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Again, it's a private organization. It doesn't have to allow anybody to be leaders. And what legitimate proof is there that it's based on homophobia?

Okay, so it's a private organization. How is that relevant to whether it's homophobe? So is the KKK; does that make it not racist? (I'm not equating the BSA with the KKK, unlike Steve Benson; just making a point.)

il Padrino Ute · 06-09-2006, 04:04 AM

Way to dodge my question.

And the definition of morally straight is relevant as to what one thinks it is. Always has been, always will be.

il Padrino Ute · 06-09-2006, 04:05 AM

I think the KKK is racist. Their activities of murder is legitimate proof that it is an organization based on racism.

Again, where is the legitimate proof that the BSA is homophobic? Why not answer my question rather than divert attention to something else?

Robin · 06-09-2006, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Again, it's a private organization. It doesn't have to allow anybody to be leaders. And what legitimate proof is there that it's based on homophobia?

Hmmm... define 'legitimate proof.' Then define 'homophobia.' Then tell me of a single person who is 'homophobic,' and offer 'legitimate proof.'

Robin · 06-09-2006, 04:15 AM

The KKK does not officially support murder. It has, in the past, cutivated a culture where individuals murdered blacks, even though this was against the official policy of the klan.

il Padrino Ute · 06-09-2006, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin

Hmmm... define 'legitimate proof.' Then define 'homophobia.' Then tell me of a single person who is 'homophobic,' and offer 'legitimate proof.'

I hear the homophobic accusation whenever anyone disagrees with anything to to with the gay agenda or gays themselves. It seems to be an easy way to manipulate things in order to get what the pro-gay crowd wants.

You have yet to answer the question - are you conceding that it's your opinion only that the BSA is homphobic?

The_Tick · 06-09-2006, 04:25 AM

It is BSA's ball. They get to make the rules.

I am fine with that.

If they said "no fat white kids" then I am fine with that too.

We will create our own FWSA (Fat White Scouts of America)

Why go somewhere where we aren't wanted?

This is my biggest problem with everything gay. You are either with them or against them. I call Bull.

Jeff Lebowski · 06-09-2006, 04:34 AM

Way to hijack the thread, guys. What started out as a nice observation turns into yet another gay debate. Sigh...

il Padrino Ute · 06-09-2006, 04:35 AM

I apologize, as it's probably my fault for asking the question about proof.

My bad.

Robin · 06-09-2006, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by homeboy

Way to hijack the thread, guys. What started out as a nice observation turns into yet another gay debate. Sigh...

I agree. Sorry guys. I have a lot of respect for the BSA of my youth, and many fond memories. I am sure that Mike is following more in that tradition than teaching homophobia. Every kid needs to spend a week or two each year 'roughing it' in the country. Props to Mike for making that happen.

06-09-2006, 04:04 AM	#12
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Way to dodge my question. And the definition of morally straight is relevant as to what one thinks it is. Always has been, always will be. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

06-09-2006, 04:05 AM	#13
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I think the KKK is racist. Their activities of murder is legitimate proof that it is an organization based on racism. Again, where is the legitimate proof that the BSA is homophobic? Why not answer my question rather than divert attention to something else? __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

06-09-2006, 04:25 AM	#17
The_Tick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 626	It is BSA's ball. They get to make the rules. I am fine with that. If they said "no fat white kids" then I am fine with that too. We will create our own FWSA (Fat White Scouts of America) Why go somewhere where we aren't wanted? This is my biggest problem with everything gay. You are either with them or against them. I call Bull. __________________ Spooooooon

06-09-2006, 04:34 AM	#18
Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	Way to hijack the thread, guys. What started out as a nice observation turns into yet another gay debate. Sigh... __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr.

06-09-2006, 04:35 AM	#19
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I apologize, as it's probably my fault for asking the question about proof. My bad. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

06-09-2006, 04:15 AM	#15
Robin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 961	The KKK does not officially support murder. It has, in the past, cutivated a culture where individuals murdered blacks, even though this was against the official policy of the klan.