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bluegoose · 07-19-2007, 10:12 PM

In the book that I just finished (Lance Armstrongs War), he mentions that when EPO was really big, several Dutch(I think?) riders died in their sleep due to hematocrit being too high and being unable to push the sludge through their arteries. They started setting an alarm clock a couple of times per night to wake them up, have them do some light calisthenics to get the blood moving again, and keep them alive through the night. Problem solved.

It was also the authors contention, that nearly, if not all, of the top riders have doped in the past. He never said it straight out, but implied that his research led him to believe Lance did as well.

Archaea · 07-19-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegoose

In the book that I just finished (Lance Armstrongs War), he mentions that when EPO was really big, several Dutch(I think?) riders died in their sleep due to hematocrit being too high and being unable to push the sludge through their arteries. They started setting an alarm clock a couple of times per night to wake them up, have them do some light calisthenics to get the blood moving again, and keep them alive through the night. Problem solved.

It was also the authors contention, that nearly, if not all, of the top riders have doped in the past. He never said it straight out, but implied that his research led him to believe Lance did as well.

It would not surprise me if the cycling culture required it. And if there is a new innovation which is undetectable, people will try it again.

It will make it interesting again though if we see riders with bad days and good days.

When Viking powers away from me during the Ulcer, I'll just know it's the drugs.

RC Vikings · 07-19-2007, 10:27 PM

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It would not surprise me if the cycling culture required it. And if there is a new innovation which is undetectable, people will try it again.

It will make it interesting again though if we see riders with bad days and good days.

When Viking powers away from me during the Ulcer, I'll just know it's the drugs.

My blood is like sludge but it's not from EPO, it's from OREO.

creekster · 07-19-2007, 10:29 PM

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Other than a casual review, I don't have good knowledge of it.

But, the ONCE team looked for hotels based on which hotels had paintings on the top of the ceiling so they could hang their drugs.

Apparently all the domestiques and winners do a combination, depending upon time in season, of EPO, steroids and cortizones. The domestiques have to do it to keep up with the winners, and each must purchase his own drugs. it sounds more credible based on feedback I'm receiving.

The riders are hooked up to a machine to monitor heart rate, even during Tour to avoid heart attack.

Pedro Delgado was the one that started the EPO craze, the one who demolished Lemond, who was into blood doping.

Like I said, you could be right. I have not read the book. That story sounds like one of those anecdotes that was probabyl true once, but maybe not every time.

RC Vikings · 07-19-2007, 10:32 PM

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Upon reviewing some of the materials from Lance to Landis, I now believe there is probably NO clean rider before maybe this tour, since even before Eddy Merckyx.

Read that book, and you might become convinced that it is a level field, with all members of domestiques and winners cheating at the same level.

"You don't ride the Tour de France on mineral water alone," said five times winner Jacques Anquetil.

Riders have been looking for an edge for a long time.

SteelBlue · 07-19-2007, 10:55 PM

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Whatever drugs he might be taking, however, I think we can safely assume they were low calorie.

I don't think I've ever seen a thinner athlete and I'm amazed that those tiny muscles can carry him up the hill like they do. I think people came out of Auschwitz heavier than him.

MikeWaters · 07-19-2007, 10:56 PM

I hope Rasmussen wins and it turns out he doped. Just like Landis.

The Tour needs more pain, before it will be rid of cheaters.

creekster · 07-19-2007, 10:56 PM

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I don't think I've ever seen a thinner athlete and I'm amazed that those tiny muscles can carry him up the hill like they do. I think people came out of Auschwitz heavier than him.

I agree. I hate to look at him when he doesn't have his helme ton becasue he looks so sickly thin. Maybe I am a little jealous?

SteelBlue · 07-19-2007, 11:00 PM

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Maybe I am a little jealous?

Jealous of this? I don't think so.

By the way, I notice he has an armband tattoo. I'll bet the tattoo artist used less ink on that one than any other he's given in his entire career.

Archaea · 07-19-2007, 11:36 PM

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My blood is like sludge but it's not from EPO, it's from OREO.

Hostess cupcakes are my sludge.

07-19-2007, 10:12 PM	#11
bluegoose Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,919	In the book that I just finished (Lance Armstrongs War), he mentions that when EPO was really big, several Dutch(I think?) riders died in their sleep due to hematocrit being too high and being unable to push the sludge through their arteries. They started setting an alarm clock a couple of times per night to wake them up, have them do some light calisthenics to get the blood moving again, and keep them alive through the night. Problem solved. It was also the authors contention, that nearly, if not all, of the top riders have doped in the past. He never said it straight out, but implied that his research led him to believe Lance did as well.

07-19-2007, 10:56 PM	#17
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I hope Rasmussen wins and it turns out he doped. Just like Landis. The Tour needs more pain, before it will be rid of cheaters.