Should sports at all levels be desegregated?

[MikeWaters]

That is women and mens sports combined?

These feminists argue "yes".

http://www.amazon.com/Playing-Boys-S...7476298&sr=8-1

Just as an aside, when I was in the 5th grade, we all ran the 50 yard dash, and if I'm not mistaken, I was first place, tied with a girl.

Meaning that girl ran faster than every boy in the school except me. Pretty exceptional.

Then boys hit puberty and the gap widens quite significantly.

I say bring it on, see what happens.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

That is women and mens sports combined?

These feminists argue "yes".

http://www.amazon.com/Playing-Boys-S...7476298&sr=8-1

Just as an aside, when I was in the 5th grade, we all ran the 50 yard dash, and if I'm not mistaken, I was first place, tied with a girl.

Meaning that girl ran faster than every boy in the school except me. Pretty exceptional.

Then boys hit puberty and the gap widens quite significantly.

I say bring it on, see what happens.

That would solve Title IX. Too bad the girls would be relegated to playing billiards, bowling and chess.

[minn_stat]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

That would solve Title IX. Too bad the girls would be relegated to playing billiards, bowling and chess.

Oh, I don't know. I'm not sure men would dominate synchronized swimming or the balance beam....

[bigpiney]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

Oh, I don't know. I'm not sure men would dominate synchronized swimming or the balance beam....

But then I would like to see women try the rings. Total equality is stupid.

Of course Title 9 is a tool of the devil.

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by bigpiney

But then I would like to see women try the rings. Total equality is stupid.

Of course Title 9 is a tool of the devil.

Men are better at women in all sports including sports that are dominated by women. For example Gymnastics men are better gymnasts, men are better dancers (ask SU) men are better at every sport. Thats just the way it is.

I have told this story before but I played at 24 hour fitness with 3 WNBA players. I had myself and 2 other guys that are average at best. We dominated them, they made a few shots but other than that they were highschool JV level if that.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Men are better at women in all sports including sports that are dominated by women. For example Gymnastics men are better gymnasts, men are better dancers (ask SU) men are better at every sport. Thats just the way it is.

I have told this story before but I played at 24 hour fitness with 3 WNBA players. I had myself and 2 other guys that are average at best. We dominated them, they made a few shots but other than that they were highschool JV level if that.

Speaking of this, a few years ago I was having a discussion with a co-worker about the WNBA. He was wondering how much sexism and homophobia really play a part in the un-popularity of the WNBA. I argued that it was largely quality driven.

I then walked him through the following set of questions.

If the WNBA Champs and the NBA champs played each other, who would win? His answer was quick and unwavering...the NBA champs.

I then proceeded to lower the quality level of the potential WBNA Champs opponent, but his answer remained the same....

1. The WNBA Champs vs the last-place NBA team? (Men would win)
2. ...vs the NCAA Men's tourney champs?
3. ....vs the 64th seed in the Tournament?
4. ...vs the Indiana State Boys High School champs?
5. ....vs a boys high school varsity league champion?
6. ....vs an average boys high school varsity team?
7. .....vs a high school JV boys team?.....

It was only on the 7th question that he conceded that the women would have a good chance, simply because the boys' bodies would not all be fully developed quite yet.

So, in essence, the NBA is trying to promote a league that is "likely" about as good as a boys HS JV basketball team. well, take a look at a JV hoops game and see who attends....friends and family. No wonder the WNBA is on life support.

[Archaea]

I doubt they couldn't compete against most high school teams, not necessarily league champs. I understand the point, but believe it's overstated.

WNBA wouldn't compete against any Pro, almost any college team and not the best high school teams. Beyond that I believe they'd compete.

The quality of women's basketball is poor.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I doubt they couldn't compete against most high school teams, not necessarily league champs. I understand the point, but believe it's overstated.

WNBA wouldn't compete against any Pro, almost any college team and not the best high school teams. Beyond that I believe they'd compete.

The quality of women's basketball is poor.

yes, I agree. Sorry, I was not clear.

The point of our exercise was to determine a level at which you could say with little degree of uncertainty that the women would, over the course of say 5-10 games, win a fair share.

We were of the opinion that although WNBA champs would be competitive at the HS varsity level (as you state), neither one of us was 51% or more confident that they would win 5 or more of the 10 games. I still stand by that, but of course have zero basis for it, other than attending and watching a few WNBA games in person.

At the JV level, I could easily see it going 50-50, simply because many JV boys weigh 110 pounds, where some of the WNBA centers look like they are 200 pounds.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

yes, I agree. Sorry, I was not clear.

The point of our exercise was to determine a level at which you could say with little degree of uncertainty that the women would, over the course of say 5-10 games, win a fair share.

We were of the opinion that although WNBA champs would be competitive at the HS varsity level (as you state), neither one of us was 51% or more confident that they would win 5 or more of the 10 games. I still stand by that, but of course have zero basis for it, other than attending and watching a few WNBA games in person.

At the JV level, I could easily see it going 50-50, simply because many JV boys weigh 110 pounds, where some of the WNBA centers look like they are 200 pounds.

I don't follow high school basketball other than the tournaments they have here in Vegas.

And some of those teams could defeat some low level college teams. If a Lebron James high school team played the WNBA, I'd take that team as on WNBA has that level of athleticism.

The question of teamwork and knowledge of the game and at what level, disparate athleticism would make a difference. In high school, many players still play stupidly. By college the physicality and knowledge would be far superior.

It is rare for a high school boys team with a winning record to lack several players who can and do dunk. That is not the sole measure, but it would also show what would happen in terms of rebounding.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

That is women and mens sports combined?

These feminists argue "yes".

http://www.amazon.com/Playing-Boys-S...7476298&sr=8-1

Just as an aside, when I was in the 5th grade, we all ran the 50 yard dash, and if I'm not mistaken, I was first place, tied with a girl.

Meaning that girl ran faster than every boy in the school except me. Pretty exceptional.

Then boys hit puberty and the gap widens quite significantly.

I say bring it on, see what happens.

I'm with you.

It would have been fun to see Lisa Leslie try to battle Karl Malone for a rebound. She'd learn just what Karl's elbow is all about.

Let a woman get in the box and face a Randy Johnson slider or Nolan Ryan fastball.

Annika Sornestam found out why women have their own tour.