Hillary for President

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by Archaea

What redeeming characteristic does Hillary possess for a Republican?

Does she have a fiscal track record that inspires you?

Does she have foreign policy track record that inspires you?

What could she do to help the economy?

What impact would a socialized styled health care have upon those already with insurance?

Although we don't need a president who is beholden to religious voters, what benefit is it to have one manifestly hostile to religion?

I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I'll take a crack at it.

She probably doesn't have too many characteristics that Republicans would like. Compassion may be one. I'm not sure though, because I have no proof she is compassionate nor that Republicans like compassion.

I don't know much about her fiscal track record since she hasn't had much chance to do anything outside of Bill's presidency. She claims to be in favor of a balanced budget. I think that would help the economy. It seems like a good idea not to spend money you don't have.

The socialized health care system would be a benefit to the hundreds of thousands of uninsured people. There is no reason to fear this ever happening because the insurance and medical lobby is way too strong. I'm not a government expert, but I don't think the President can overhaul the whole medical care system alone. The current system of overpriced, unaffordable healthcare isn't working. I'm not really a fan of socialized medicine, but I don't see how it could be worse than what we've got.

As far as religion goes, I believe she attends a Methodist church. I've never read anything that leads me to believe she is hostile to religion.

I still hope it comes down to Hillary and Mitt. Imagine people trying to choose between a woman and a Mormon. SNL will get really funny, really fast.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

I'm not sure though, because I have no proof she is compassionate nor that Republicans like compassion.

But they're compassionate conservatives!!

Originally Posted by BlueHair

I still hope it comes down to Hillary and Mitt. Imagine people trying to choose between a woman and a Mormon.

No, I anticipate the choice between a Mormon and a bi-racial African-American with a Muslim name being much more tortuous for the red south.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I'll take a crack at it.

She probably doesn't have too many characteristics that Republicans would like. Compassion may be one. I'm not sure though, because I have no proof she is compassionate nor that Republicans like compassion.

I don't know much about her fiscal track record since she hasn't had much chance to do anything outside of Bill's presidency. She claims to be in favor of a balanced budget. I think that would help the economy. It seems like a good idea not to spend money you don't have.

The socialized health care system would be a benefit to the hundreds of thousands of uninsured people. There is no reason to fear this ever happening because the insurance and medical lobby is way too strong. I'm not a government expert, but I don't think the President can overhaul the whole medical care system alone. The current system of overpriced, unaffordable healthcare isn't working. I'm not really a fan of socialized medicine, but I don't see how it could be worse than what we've got.

As far as religion goes, I believe she attends a Methodist church. I've never read anything that leads me to believe she is hostile to religion.

I still hope it comes down to Hillary and Mitt. Imagine people trying to choose between a woman and a Mormon. SNL will get really funny, really fast.

Talk about loaded answers. Especially "compassion". A politician's "compassion" is a codeword for increased taxes and social programs to buy more votes. She is a socialist in that regard and if you define that as compassion, which I don't, then she probably has a track record, but increased social programs are not appealing to most Republicans.

She has voted for increased spending and is recognized as one of the most liberal spending voting records in the Senate.

She in her infamous rant tried to rail against religionists as creating lies about her husband, believing some massive conspiracy abounded. If you missed that, then you weren't watching.

I asked the question about what her socialized medicine would do to the majority of "insured", not uninsured.

IOW, on issues that appeal to workers and Republicans she has no appeal.

[minn_stat]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

She probably doesn't have too many characteristics that Republicans would like. Compassion may be one. I'm not sure though, because I have no proof she is compassionate nor that Republicans like compassion.

I'm tired of hearing how liberals are more compassionate. They are compassionate with other people's money. If they really cared so much, wouldn't they open their own wallets? I remember reading about compassionate John Kerry's tax returns and the measly amount he donated to charity. Instead, he wants to take MY money and help the poor with it. Not all democrats are this way, but it seems way too common, IMO.

And secondly, read about Hillary Clinton. From both her enemies or her friends. It becomes pretty clear that on a personal level, she is a pretty vindictive person. So in her political life, she is compassionate, but on a personal level, she is vindictive? Seems a bit odd, don't you think? The truly compassionate people I know show their compassion in their daily interactions with others, not just with platitudes they spout.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

I'm tired of hearing how liberals are more compassionate. They are compassionate with other people's money. If they really cared so much, wouldn't they open their own wallets? I remember reading about compassionate John Kerry's tax returns and the measly amount he donated to charity. Instead, he wants to take MY money and help the poor with it. Not all democrats are this way, but it seems way too common, IMO.

And secondly, read about Hillary Clinton. From both her enemies or her friends. It becomes pretty clear that on a personal level, she is a pretty vindictive person. So in her political life, she is compassionate, but on a personal level, she is vindictive? Seems a bit odd, don't you think? The truly compassionate people I know show their compassion in their daily interactions with others, not just with platitudes they spout.

Right on, Rush ....err... Sean ....err.... minn_stat.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

I'm tired of hearing how liberals are more compassionate. They are compassionate with other people's money. If they really cared so much, wouldn't they open their own wallets? I remember reading about compassionate John Kerry's tax returns and the measly amount he donated to charity. Instead, he wants to take MY money and help the poor with it. Not all democrats are this way, but it seems way too common, IMO.

And secondly, read about Hillary Clinton. From both her enemies or her friends. It becomes pretty clear that on a personal level, she is a pretty vindictive person. So in her political life, she is compassionate, but on a personal level, she is vindictive? Seems a bit odd, don't you think? The truly compassionate people I know show their compassion in their daily interactions with others, not just with platitudes they spout.

You mean like Jimmy Carter? And Bill Clinton?

It's interesting how these ex-presidents compare to recent GOP ex-presidents.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Right on, Rush ....err... Sean ....err.... minn_stat.

You're usually reasonable but tell me why Democrats have coopted the concept of compassion into meaning funding massive social programs at tremendous tax burdens?

And when I think of Christ, I don't think of his social programs, I think of his personal interaction with individuals with him exhibiting personal service. When can you think of that for any of the known "compassionate" Dems?

I remember the story of Romney closing everything down and Bain Investmetn group when a daughter of a client went missing in New York, but I know of no such efforts by Hillary or Barack. Do you?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Archaea

You're usually reasonable but tell me why Democrats have coopted the concept of compassion into meaning funding massive social programs at tremendous tax burdens?

And when I think of Christ, I don't think of his social programs, I think of his personal interaction with individuals with him exhibiting personal service. When can you think of that for any of the known "compassionate" Dems?

I remember the story of Romney closing everything down and Bain Investmetn group when a daughter of a client went missing in New York, but I know of no such efforts by Hillary or Barack. Do you?

You are taking my comment too seriously. Just sounded like a classic Limbaugh/Hannity sound bite.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

You are taking my comment too seriously. Just sounded like a classic Limbaugh/Hannity sound bite.

It's a pet peeve of mine that liberal Dems have coopted that terms, whereas my family would never be considered a liberal Democratic family, yet we work hard to contribute to local charities in both time and money. My wife alone donates close to 25 hours per week on charities, and we donate significant income for us. But because we're not Dems, we're not compassionate. (PS I'm not asking for any commendation as the work for charities is compensation enough, but the "compassionate" society is pure BS IMHO).

I don't listen to Limbaugh or Hannity so I wouldn't recognize the quote.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

You mean like Jimmy Carter? And Bill Clinton?

It's interesting how these ex-presidents compare to recent GOP ex-presidents.

Bill Clinton is insincere. He is all about image. Always has been and always will be.